Looks cool. I pulled mine out today..
- I bought this from a walk in at a Texas guitar show.
- 1963 Fender Esquire
I haven't taken the neck off to see the neck stamp but it feels like a typical late 63 B neck profile.Chabenda wrote: Hmmmmm... a killer dilemma guitar!!! INCREDIBLY valuable - that's a pension in itself!!! But so mint that you don't dare play it!!! It is absolutely beautiful!!! If it was mine I'd sell it to a collector and buy a beat up '63 that I could play comfortably. You have an amazing guitar. Congratulations!
As a matter of interest, what type of neck does it have? Mine was a 'B' but felt like a baseball bat.
- studmissile wrote:
Got me thinking what condition is the amp in? Any pics?Vintage Guitar wrote:
Yes, good old Kempton Parkstudmissile wrote:
Wow what a lucky find! That looks to good to be true! Amazing! Was it found in SA?Vintage Guitar wrote:
It is an original 1963 Fender Stratocaster.studmissile wrote: Wow! Is that a reissue custom or an original. Great condition, looks hardly played!
The original owner used it for a couple months.
He gave up playing and put the guitar into storage with a matching Fender Showman amp.
I will try, it is rare guitar and in mint condition.MikeM wrote: Are you going to hold onto this one?
The downside with a vintage guitar this clean is that you never feel comfortable playing it.
Yes, good old Kempton Parkstudmissile wrote:
Wow what a lucky find! That looks to good to be true! Amazing! Was it found in SA?Vintage Guitar wrote:
It is an original 1963 Fender Stratocaster.studmissile wrote: Wow! Is that a reissue custom or an original. Great condition, looks hardly played!
The original owner used it for a couple months.
He gave up playing and put the guitar into storage with a matching Fender Showman amp.
It is an original 1963 Fender Stratocaster.studmissile wrote: Wow! Is that a reissue custom or an original. Great condition, looks hardly played!
The original owner used it for a couple months.
He gave up playing and put the guitar into storage with a matching Fender Showman amp.
- One of my recent purchases was this 1963 fender Strat with factory Gold Hardware.
The two most vital facts, of which I have proof are:Vic wrote:
To be honest I think you miss the point Chad....the out-burst (excuse the pun) is around the alleged "lack of honesty and integrity" of the appointed "agent" from their perspective. The article, or value of such, has nothing to do with the debate.Chad Adam Browne wrote: Just some choice quotes off their forum.
^ The guy who posted this is an idiot, as if the over inflated value of this thing is somehow going to lessen because someone got screwed over...Also the hinting that they have some sort of secret society thing going on is pretentious and super lame...I hope the guy enjoys THAT burst, because this is a pretty damn small community, and word gets around......
"emotional" I almost fell off my chair laughing at that.This is exactly what happens when you try to cut too many $ corners in buying a "thing" as rare, as distant, and as "emotional" as a Burst
That they do...U guys sound like a bunch of women in a sewing circle...
I think the whole thing is daft, mainly just cause I'm not nostalgic so the whole rarity thing wouldn't influence my interest in the guitar and the fact that it's old is actually a huge negative in my mind. Why do people seem to go so bonkers over guitars that were made to far lower tolerances than those of today? (Rhetorical)
It's great that there are so many people who are willing to spend small fortunes on guitars that don't really have any quantifiable advantage over modern guitars, I find it quite annoying that there's an entire guitar playing culture that has developed around the idea that somehow these relic instruments are of a higher tier than the things you can get today...
TL;DR: I still think the whole vintage thing is stupid, also as is generally my experience these old school "tone afficionados" generally can't play well enough to warrant their opinions, you do get the exception to the norm but often they don't have the skills to back their mouths IMO ?
Mark Grace responded above with his account of the events and the US guy claims that Grace is misrepresenting the actual facts.
1. There was no deal or agreement in place for me to purchase the guitar on behalf of the overseas buyers.
2. At the time of purchasing the guitar I had received no contact info. from the overseas buyers.
I will go anywhere in the world for a chance to buy another one. ?makepeace wrote: Very interesting story.
Loved this one:
Also location is everything. You ever been to S.Africa? With 45k in CASH??? (in a country/city/culture you effectively know nothing about.) Seriously? I'm not interested in dying over a guitar. Hiring the job out was smart. I just picked the wrong guy.
When a burst comes up for air you have to move quickly.
I was offered $3k. Nobody on the lespaulforum has mentioned that the guy helping his buddy out was trying to take $2k for himself.kapepper wrote:
Well, I think it is also a good case that the Guitar stayed here in South Africa and not to a US dealer...
I also wonder, if the US guy was thinking if those guys in Africa are stupid....
You give a south african guy (who happens to be very knowledgeable about the issue) 5k to pick up one of the most sought after guitars for a real bargain price. Hold on to the guitar and bring it to the US and give it to the US guy who will probably sell the guitar asap for double or triple money....
I only wonder what would have happened if Graceland guitars had done this and
- the guitar would have been stolen afterwards
- or was already stolen before... you know what have happened to me and the Jazz bass
- was not as original and worth that money
- was damaged during transport
- was a complete scam
- etcetera
The US buyer is just kicking himself for not being more pragmatic and just travelled to South Africa
Hey Shaun, I got your number. We should meet up and I will give you the lowdown and talk vintage gear.shaunf wrote:
So Mark, any chance of giving us the skinny on what actually happened here? I remember reading that thread at the time and wondering what had happened. To be honest, I'm glad that guitar hasn't left our shores, and I don't know what your intentions are with it, but I hope it stays here. I sleep better at night knowing there is a 1960 Burst less than 5km from me! ?Vintage Guitar wrote:
That's not what I call her.. ?nick wrote: Ahh the infamous 'disgrace' burst ?
Also, if you come across any old Marshall kit like old cabs, heads etc that aren't in a condition you're interested in, please let me know. I had quite a bit of fun restoring an old 4x12 that another forumer got from you, and that I ended up with in a trade.
I'm just up the road from you, in Hillcrest.
The logo came off easily, I slid a business card under the logo and in a matter of minutes it popped right off.Manfred Klose wrote:
they mention somewhere in the thread that it was removedHmmm... what happened to that big ass Gibson logo that was glued to the top?
EDIT: dont know how true that is ?
The original owner used the logo off his Gibson GA40 amp. ?
That's not what I call her.. ?nick wrote: Ahh the infamous 'disgrace' burst ?- This is without doubt the coolest colour on a Vintage Fender Guitar. ?
It is always difficult to photograph Fiesta Red to get the true colour but here is a snap I took when I picked her up at the airport.
- My most recent purchase and I think she may just be ...THE ONE ?
I am always in the market for a Vintage Strat. 8)kapepper wrote:
or for that matter, any other slightly more expensive guitarVellaJ wrote: There's no market for them in SA.
Here is a photo of a great trio of Pre CBS Fender Stratocasters.
- Here are a few pics of my latest purchase. A rare 1958 Fender P Bass purchased from the original owner pictured here on stage with Mickie Most and Gene Vincent in the 1960's. 8)
These pieces are on consignment and have been in stock for ages.vic wrote:
Here is a less original example for a lot more '60 for $185000 http://www.gruhn.com/?utm_source=Goop+Newsletter&utm_campaign=40aa69849d-Goop75_03_25_2010&utm_medium=emailVintage Guitar wrote:
There is far better 1958-1960 Les Paul Stock available for the same sort of money.joel wrote:
Economic reasons ? .....Bigsby ?.Vintage Guitar wrote:
This guitar is currently on consignment with a UK dealer and is in Dallas for the Arlington Guitar Show.
I highly doubt it will sell for the asking price of $137,500.
As a vintage guitar collector why do you think this ?
This particular late 1960 example also has the least desirable features and a Bigsby removal.
Thin neck, reflector knobs and the tomato soup colour.
and a '59 with no "Les Paul model" logo for $199000. Click inventory and then Gibson solidbody electrics...
If you had talk to the guitars owner and the deal was all cash(no trades) they would be at least 30% cheaper.
