Zulublues wrote: +1 TI

Also a happy CV50 Tele owner.

How many other Tele C50 owners here??

studmissile wrote: how much you got to spend?

singemonkey wrote:

Sean wrote: Can you imagine what kind of place this would be if we did actually learn from the mistakes made by others? I can see this thread being linked to plenty "I'm learning how to play,what guitar..." threads ?

Well, I thought it was worth writing because I figure 1 in 10 or so actually will think it's worth trusting the old hands rather than following the usual road of mishaps. Maybe the odd dad of a 14 year old will also be influenced when they're part of the process.

chris77 wrote:

Chilli wrote:

Shibbibilybob wrote: I'm no Fender expert, but as I understand it, the early 80s are not remembered as any kind of "golden age" of fender products.
I would expect to see that guitar sell for between R10k and R15k depending on the condition.

Thanks for the reply.

I got the value of this guitar from Fender SA from one of their specialists. They said that the model i have and in the condition it is in, which is pretty amazing for a 30 yer old USA Fender made in the original Fender Factory, that the value is around $1500 - $2000 as is, because i also have the Fender USA Hard case with it. The case is missing the middle clip, but other than that, this guitar still has all the original parts and sounds so amazing.

So i don't think i could sell it for less than R17k as is.

I will put up a picture shortly so you can see it.

I think 17k could be at the upper region of what you are likely to get, but if that is your minimum you advertise it for more and leave yourself some wiggle room. If it sells great, if it doesn't you will know that the market isn't prepared to pay as much and might have to drop your price accordingly.
Also keep in mind that folks love bargains and whatever price you ask there will be folks making low ball offers and telling you how your price is crazy. (And if you come across as desperate to sell almost everybody who contacts you will chance their luck looking for a score). Don't be offended by them. Just stick to your guns and if they seem genuinely interested try and get them up to your minimum price and if you can't make a deal then so be it. Remember though that as with anything in life, if the price goes up the number of potential customers who can afford it goes down. So you might have to be prepared to sit on it for a while until you get your price. If a quick sale is what you're looking for then the opposite becomes true and the more you drop the price, the quicker you will probably sell it.

I'm not a Fender buff either, but I know that most of the bad rep about CBS Fenders are because of the corners they cut in the 70's to maximize profits. Sales suffered and in the early eighties they tried to turn it around by hirng Dan Smith and Bill Schultz. They suggested concentrating on quality and these Smith era Strats are reportedly very, very good instruments. The damage was however already done and despite the increase in quality sales didn't really jump much. CBS then went back to cutting even more corners to boost profits, which (suprise suprise) didn't really help their cause either. Fender only got back their reputation for consistent quality when Bill Schultz and his partners bought Fender back from CBS in the mid eighties and started a turnaround which saw them become the biggest guitar maker in the world again.

I googled it now and 82/83 appears to be right smack in the middle of when Smith and Schultz were were trying to boost sales by raising the quality again so your guitar should be a good one and worth the selling price you ask for it. The only way to find out however is to advertise it and see what the market is prepared to pay for it.

Good luck with the sale!

beardedmoose wrote: Howzit chilli. welcome man

Shibbibilybob wrote: I'm no Fender expert, but as I understand it, the early 80s are not remembered as any kind of "golden age" of fender products.
I would expect to see that guitar sell for between R10k and R15k depending on the condition.

chris77 wrote: A product is worth exactly as much as somebody is willing to pay for it. The seller asking a ridiculous price might have bought it at a ridiculous price as well, in which case the price probably would then seem fair to him/her. After all, if somebody was willing to pay that much once, why not again?

What I'm in two minds about is whether I should just let these ads go past and not say anything about the ridiculous price or to warn potential buyers that the same can be had for much less. On the one hand I reckon if you get overcharged you deserve it and it isn't really my place - or anybody else's for that matter - to spoil a sellers ad. If he gets what he asked then I was wrong and if he doesn't it is up to him to drop his price. Unless it's a friend or somebody asked me for my opinion, this is what I'll do.
But on the other hand I can't help but feel that if I can save somebody a few hard earned Rands by pointing out a ridiculous price to potential buyers, I should do it. I would have really loved it had somebody done so to me when I started out.
But really, in the internet age there is no excuse for being taken in by a seller charging too much.