d10221 But ... I just bought an Amp ... is too f** loud for my place ... wtf was I thinking ...

Thought probably wasn't factored in - much like when I came home with a Marshall Super Bass 100W + 4x12 Cab which I couldn't take past '3' -0 neighbours became less than friendly. Two decades later, I barely take my 10W practice amp past '3' - now, my ears object! ?

d10221 FB has one redeeming feature. I was badly GAS afflicted and the sale groups were my dealer ?

V8
Nothing wrong with group, I think is great,
I have no prob with 2nd hand stuff, if rightly priced,
I just don't like FB
?

"Yes, that could do ..
But ... I just bought an Amp ... is too f** loud for my place ... wtf was I thinking ...
I was thinking in making a 2x6.5 or 1x10 double the Ohm's
But I'm not sure yet "

What speaker is in the amp? Which amp is it?

Double the impedance (Ohms) will only make a 3dB difference to SPL at any given setting. 3dB is just enough to hear that it is softer. -10dB is half the volume

If it currently has a 12" speaker we could look at a 16 Ohm unit with lower efficiency which will make some difference but nothing massive. Maybe you are just having to drive everything very hard to get decent tone so we can look at that option as well.

JGP

Thanks

Its a Marshall CODE 100 2x12
It shouldn't be so loud (I thought), its solid state ... but... it is.
Or at least is load enough to be a problem, for my place and hours I want to use it ?

I use headset most of the times, or small studio monitors I got.
But the f**ckr doesn't sound the same as with it's own speakers,
which are not great quality BTW,
I'm guessing its efficiency is also on par (low).

It seems to me the speakers where chosen due to 'limited' range, its takes off a lot of the "modeling" defects.

Thats why I was thinking smaller speaker will make it sound "smaller" , thinner,
that amp has way too much low end, ...
and the "Master" volume is very sensitive,
on top the cab is closed, not open-back,
I thought about chopping it), but is still too new ?

Again .. thats why I though smaller speaker(s) could help.
But again not sure.

Thanks again for you sound advise, pun intended ?
D.

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d10221 Its a Marshall CODE 100 2x12
It shouldn't be so loud (I thought), its solid state ... but... it is.

I didn't buy tubes because of that ... bad move ?

There are currently a few celestions on Samis page at the moment

Thanks Guido

Btw:
Today ... I think .. I need an IR , speaker emulator more than speakers
But I reserve the right to contradict my self tomorrow ?

d10221 Its a Marshall CODE 100 2x12
It shouldn't be so loud (I thought), its solid state ... but... it is.

A not loud 2x12? Ummm...errr....not really a thing I've often run into. Blame all those fender twins - though I did have a LAb Series L5 (70's Solid State 2x12) that played all right at low volumes.

Sell the code and get a Boss Katana 50, that does low volume (clean or breakup) pretty darn well.

d10221 Today ... I think .. I need an IR , speaker emulator more than speakers
But I reserve the right to contradict my self tomorrow ?

Is how we learn - though figuring out what we actually need vs what we want is almost all the journey (though don't believe me, I play bass!)

V8 Is how we learn - though figuring out what we actually need vs what we want is almost all the journey (though don't believe me, I play bass!)

Yeah , its just a bit expensive for school fees ?

Funny, I told my wife I don't need an Amp .. I just want it. ?

d10221 Want vs Need - took me some school fee's to learn that me'self!

That and tone <> volume. Though, I am a long time multi-fx user (I've had > 10 over the yrs), so the Katana makes sense to me. And it get's pretty decent tones at bedroom volumes and can hang with a energetic drummer (and still sounds good) - not that a good valve amp doesn't sound better, (Mesa 5:25 express is amazing. Laney's mid range valve amps are also great) - but it's 3-4x more $$$.

I'll never own a Twin - capricious beasts - too loud for 99% of jams/gigs I'd ever to get to play and always needing something, valves, caps, speakers, attenuators, friends to help carry ?

d10221 I Also had a Laney ... they were quite unpopular at the time,

Odd how the Laney amps never got much love locally - aside from the Cub12 - I reckon it's Bothner's not doing much to promote the brand in SA? Over time I've gotten to try a few good Laney products (E.g. not the cheep n nasty practice amps) and I've become a fan. The VC & LC series valve amps are pretty darn good buys in the secondhand market.

d10221 I Also embrace multi-fx quite early

I went through a Korg G3, Boss ME <something>, Line 6 X3 Live, Boss GT6B, Zoom(s) (many, I like 'em) , a horrible Behringer bass thing, NI Guitar Rig 4 (with Rig Kontrol), and some other crap stuff I'd rather forget. The Line6 was pretty good tonewise, but big, heavy and fragile. The Boss GT6B had everything but tone. And my favourite (for bass) is the cheap n cheerful;, Zoom B2 - love that thing - though I'm long overdue to upgrade to the B1X, I see that's just released...Aside from the Katana, not sure what I'd got for multi-fx on guitar a.t.m?

d10221 BTW: I'm more on "indie" sound my self ... to put it in context ?

80's ProCo Rat driving a crunchy amp? There's something to a RAT pedal that is special, same with the original Russian Big Muffs - they got a distinct sound that just doesn't seem to be re-creatable.

I went through a few pedals over the years - took a while to realize that a amp+speaker does sooo much for guitar tone - and getting guitar+amp+speaker+pedals dialed in...Heish,, I'd rather play bass DI'ed into someone else's PA ?

That was one of the things I liked about the Katana ... you are prety much covered.
Its just missing a looper, (I use my laptop right now for it)
and MIDI-IN to maybe take the advantage of the inbuilt fx
in my opinion ...

d10221 That was one of the things I liked about the Katana ... you are prety much covered.
Its just missing a looper, (I use my laptop right now for it)
and MIDI-IN to maybe take the advantage of the inbuilt fx

And a tuner - but it makes corporate sense at the price point - they excluded their two best selling pedals (looper + tuner). Having MIDI IN...well, you could then not have to use their compromised (and pricey) footswitch either...

Hmm, I'm not sounding like much of a fan, but I am - I swear!

V8 you could then not have to use their compromised (and pricey) footswitch either

Exactly my point

V8 Hmm, I'm not sounding like much of a fan, but I am - I swear!

I hear you ... there is no perfect product
I do the same , whats the point of not observing the limitations, or shortcomings ?

BTW the Artist and the Head version , do have MIDI ...
But, aside the price ..... I read its ... again not giving you all of it

On the other hand there is a "special USB box" , USB-host-box, that is supposed to give you access to MIDI

It has to special , same as the Fender Mustang, BOSS/Roland USB ports, seem to not be "class compliant"

d10221 I do the same , whats the point of not observing the limitations, or shortcomings ?

I'm of the same mind it seems - though I think by thinking through it, it helps calm my GAS(sy) tendencies.

d10221 BTW the Artist and the Head version , do have MIDI ...
But, aside the price ..... I read its ... again not giving you all of it

Yeah...I'm not rocked at the pricing of the 100W/artist versions at all - to me 200USD is a GREAT price for something that does what the 50W does. For that $, I'll live with it's limitations (and try and DIY the footswitch ? )