Challenge: The Pointy vs Paddle headstock Duel!

V8 · 2018-05-09T11:21:02+00:00

Norio and I have been swopping banter about pointy vs paddle headstocks since this thread where StephenG and Norio were talking about a duel. NorioDS Ste...

Challenge: The Pointy vs Paddle headstock Duel!

V8

Just in case you're not familiar with these tunes (shock-horror-disbelief), here's two live versions (Scuttle Buttin is played at warp speed ?)

StephenG

pearl jam - yellow leadbetter.

in nominating that, V8 has already one.. Norio - we wait your loser video.

V8

NorioDS Maybe we should do one of each

I'm happy either way! Though I think I'll swop out Raining Blood for either Enter Sandman or Nothing Else Matters, so that you have a sliver of hope... Raining Blood has some immense triplet picking that is unreasonably tricky to pick up in two weeks.

StephenG V8 has already one.. Norio - we wait your loser video.

Don't be too confident. The paddle side has me rather...nervous. Those two are ones I've never even thought of attempting. I reckon we be starting on relatively even ground there.

Though I'm thinking @NorioDS will get a education if we do the pointy side of things ?

StephenG

thinking about this some more..
you need separate songs thats traditionally been played on both headstocks..

so , again, my song nomination for the hockey stick heads - pearl jam Yellow better,

and a song for the pointy heads - ...well.... uhm.... just bang out a E chord repeatedly, with volume, overdrive and distortion set on 12.. thats abouts covers all that pointy heads are good for.

you both doing a version of each, and the winner is chosen.

NorioDS

Hey you paddle-headstock loving guy! You gotta pick between the above 2 songs ? Then we see if it's better with a proper guitar or a paddle-headstock guitar ?

StephenG

NorioDS paddle stocks are the best.

therefore you argument is invalid.

V8 wins.

NorioDS

Actually, @V8, maybe @StephenG is right. Maybe we should do one of each?

Your original pointy nominations were these right?

Peace Sells (Megadeth)
Raining Blood (Slayer)

Maybe the first 2 weeks we do paddle-esque songs and the next 2 weeks we do eye-gougers? Winner of both wins the whole challenge. Draw results in a new challenge with new songs ?

NorioDS

@V8 no pressure. The fate of all paddle headstocks lies in your hands ?

People already hate eye-gouger guitars. I ain't got shit to lose!

#nopressure

NorioDS

@Satriani I hope I can remember everything you taught me coz, otherwise, this is gonna hurt reallll bad ?

V8

NorioDS

V8 Though I'm thinking @NorioDS will get a education if we do the pointy side of things ?

Yikes, just listened to Slayer — Raining Blood for the first time. I have zero chance ?Honestly all the songs are sooo far out of my league it ain't funny. But I'm a good sport ?

And if I get one good riff or new skill out of this, it'll be well worth it. I picked Little Wing for all the chords and embellishments. Totally out of my noodling comfort zone. And I picked Scuttle Buttin' for the tasty fast blues rhythm. I have just about never played anything fast, ever.

@V8 can we get some background on your choices?

NorioDS

V8 LOL! Exactly the thing that was playing in my head. Love Russell Peters!

StephenG

its always fun until someone puts an eye out!!

NorioDS

StephenG its always fun until someone puts an eye out!!

Good thing I'll be the one playing the eye-gouger ?

V8

NorioDS @V8 can we get some background on your choices?

Peace Sells is one of my favourite tunes that I never learnt but wanted to. I think It's a really fun chuggy riffy feel with a touch of groove to it.

Raining Blood is another I always wanted to do but never did. It just sounds mad evil, especially on the live album played twice as fast as the studio version! ?

The issue with Raining Blood is, Alternate picking the triplets at that tempo takes a while to build up - It's quite a technical skill that has a surprisingly amount of subtleties. Plus I'm half-decent at it already - particularly after having to work on it for the djent band...on a BEAD tuned bass ?

NorioDS

V8 Peace Sells is one of my favourite tunes that I never learnt but wanted to. I think It's a really fun chuggy riffy feel with a touch of groove to it.

Nice! Love that song. I'm super keen to learn to play (and sing) - Megadeth - In Nothing We Trust.

V8 It just sounds mad evil, especially on the live album played twice as fast as the studio version! ?

Yikes! Ja no, waaaay outta my league. But if the Guitar Talkers wanna see me in pain, then I'll have to put on my big-boy panties and get on with it ?

NorioDS

YIKES! ?

So I pick up my guitar this arvie just before sitting down for my afternoon work session and I decide to practice some alternating picking at 120bpm. Triplets and 8th notes. Felt like I was trying to learn a new language.

THAT'S how long it's been since I've practiced properly.

Most of my "speed" practice in my teens and early twenties went into legato. I don't think I ever got a decent picking speed going at all. (And I'm still rubbish at legato. I can hammer on fairly well but my pull-offs are shyte.)

The good news (for YOU guys) is wifey got a short clip of me practicing. I'll try get it and post it here as part of the challenge updates.

NorioDS

Here it is, folks. I can't even pick anymore.

NorioDS

Ok folks, coz I messed up the newsletter, we didn't get any votes for songs so we flipped a coin. Actually it was a pick...

We actually both wanted Jimi so... I guess the universe wants us both to sukkel a bit. (I even thought, when I saw "Dunlop" that we got Little Wing ? )

So there you have it folks, 14 days begins today. Let's say entries have to be in by 23:59 Monday 28 May)

It's on!

V8

So Norio flicked a coin and we have....

I'm gonna have to find a red hat and a pipe - hopefully there's some speed in the accessories ?