Actually, @V8, maybe @StephenG is right. Maybe we should do one of each?
Your original pointy nominations were these right?
Maybe the first 2 weeks we do paddle-esque songs and the next 2 weeks we do eye-gougers? Winner of both wins the whole challenge. Draw results in a new challenge with new songs ?
NorioDS Maybe we should do one of each
I'm happy either way! Though I think I'll swop out Raining Blood for either Enter Sandman or Nothing Else Matters, so that you have a sliver of hope... Raining Blood has some immense triplet picking that is unreasonably tricky to pick up in two weeks.
StephenG V8 has already one.. Norio - we wait your loser video.
Don't be too confident. The paddle side has me rather...nervous. Those two are ones I've never even thought of attempting. I reckon we be starting on relatively even ground there.
Though I'm thinking @NorioDS will get a education if we do the pointy side of things ?
its always fun until someone puts an eye out!!
Yikes, just listened to Slayer — Raining Blood for the first time. I have zero chance ?Honestly all the songs are sooo far out of my league it ain't funny. But I'm a good sport ?
And if I get one good riff or new skill out of this, it'll be well worth it. I picked Little Wing for all the chords and embellishments. Totally out of my noodling comfort zone. And I picked Scuttle Buttin' for the tasty fast blues rhythm. I have just about never played anything fast, ever.
@V8 can we get some background on your choices?
Peace Sells is one of my favourite tunes that I never learnt but wanted to. I think It's a really fun chuggy riffy feel with a touch of groove to it.
Raining Blood is another I always wanted to do but never did. It just sounds mad evil, especially on the live album played twice as fast as the studio version! ?
The issue with Raining Blood is, Alternate picking the triplets at that tempo takes a while to build up - It's quite a technical skill that has a surprisingly amount of subtleties. Plus I'm half-decent at it already - particularly after having to work on it for the djent band...on a BEAD tuned bass ?
V8 Peace Sells is one of my favourite tunes that I never learnt but wanted to. I think It's a really fun chuggy riffy feel with a touch of groove to it.
Nice! Love that song. I'm super keen to learn to play (and sing) - Megadeth - In Nothing We Trust.
V8 It just sounds mad evil, especially on the live album played twice as fast as the studio version! ?
Yikes! Ja no, waaaay outta my league. But if the Guitar Talkers wanna see me in pain, then I'll have to put on my big-boy panties and get on with it ?
YIKES! ?
So I pick up my guitar this arvie just before sitting down for my afternoon work session and I decide to practice some alternating picking at 120bpm. Triplets and 8th notes. Felt like I was trying to learn a new language.
THAT'S how long it's been since I've practiced properly.
Most of my "speed" practice in my teens and early twenties went into legato. I don't think I ever got a decent picking speed going at all. (And I'm still rubbish at legato. I can hammer on fairly well but my pull-offs are shyte.)
The good news (for YOU guys) is wifey got a short clip of me practicing. I'll try get it and post it here as part of the challenge updates.
Here it is, folks. I can't even pick anymore.
Ok folks, coz I messed up the newsletter, we didn't get any votes for songs so we flipped a coin. Actually it was a pick...
We actually both wanted Jimi so... I guess the universe wants us both to sukkel a bit. (I even thought, when I saw "Dunlop" that we got Little Wing ? )
So there you have it folks, 14 days begins today. Let's say entries have to be in by 23:59 Monday 28 May)
It's on!
So Norio flicked a coin and we have....
I'm gonna have to find a red hat and a pipe - hopefully there's some speed in the accessories ?
Before this challenge started, while we were thinking of what to play, Meron sent me this video. I'm gonna be focusing on just the riffage of Scuttle Buttin'. Not the solo or anything else.
You're all welcome to challenge each other or just learn the riffs too in support of your own preferred headstock ?
I'm insane for ever thinking I could do this ?
You'll notice in this video that I rush through the "fast" part so I can get to the nice 'n slow "my own damn thing" part. Both sound pretty equally awful but I'm just glad the pain is over.
I figure with another 2-4 weeks, it might sound like something. Kudos to @V8. Methinks he's won already!
Sorry for the video being out of time. I couldn't help that. I recorded the video on my phone and then added in the audio from my BR-600.
PS: I'm not all sour-puss about this terrible performance of mine ? I'm glad we did this challenge. It really got my playing again and I might just stick with Scuttle Buttin' until I can play it properly. I enjoyed most parts of the challenge. Just not so much today ?
Here's my DI'ed recordings...not that I'm exactly proud of them. But my fingers are a bit tender from today's efforts, so it'll have to do.
135 bpm. Eventually I've started to get cleanish licks, occasionally with a hint of the feel that I've been struggling to find. But only a coupla times, can't get it consistently.
DI'ed into Roland Quad Capture, a few plugin's and then did two versions. One neck pickup and one neck & middle pickup. Tonewise - I prefer the neck, but I think the neck and middle is more in the ballpark?
It's been forever since I have paid this much attention to metronomes/bpm while practicing. A rather humbling experience, thanks @NorioDS ?
Thanks man! I honestly thought your clip's lick had more feel, something I only started to find a hint of this evening.
What I learnt :
Norio's challenge's are machocistic. All of them! ?
I still don't play 16ths very well.
I don't pick consistently across strings. Particularly them teeny tiny treble strings on electrics. yuk.
I'm spending too much time jamming @ 90-110bpm. Above 120 was well outside my happy place!
Technically, I couldn't play the first four 16th notes as individually picked notes - So yesterday, I came up with a motion that Is kinda like a downward sweep and then upward rake to play these first four 16th notes of the lick.
The rest of the lick I could mostly get, but that opening burble of notes was impossible for me to get as funky ass authentic as SRV.
V8 But my fingers are a bit tender from today's efforts, so it'll have to do.
It's odd isn't it? I think I played better before trying to record than I did yesterday on "d-day". I have some video clips from last week that, despite an ungodly amount of distortion, actually sound quite a bit better than my entry.
V8 Tonewise - I prefer the neck, but I think the neck and middle is more in the ballpark?
Definitely prefer the neck.
V8 Norio's challenge's are machocistic. All of them! ?
Life begins at the end of your comfort zone ?
V8 I don't pick consistently across strings.
I have the same issue with my dynamics. Challenges like these might actually get us to improve. It's hard NOT to notice the "overly loud" notes as you're trying to learn something with SO many damn notes that you don't have time to do it slowly ?
V8 I'm spending too much time jamming @ 90-110bpm. Above 120 was well outside my happy place!
Totally had the same experience except my comfort zone was in the 60bpm to 90bpm range. I mostly noodle over ballads... just because that's all I could manage. In my 20s, a little speed didn't scare me but that's coz I was mostly using legato and the 3-note-per-string scale. Makes it dead-easy.
V8 Technically, I couldn't play the first four 16th notes as individually picked notes - So yesterday, I came up with a motion that Is kinda like a downward sweep and then upward rake to play these first four 16th notes of the lick.
Definitely had a similar issue. I didn't quite get the upwards rake. Hoping a few more (relaxed) practice sessions will get me there.
V8 The rest of the lick I could mostly get, but that opening burble of notes was impossible for me to get as funky ass authentic as SRV.
Actually trying to play this song really does give you tons more respect for the legend. I mean I loved him already but, good grief, the man could play. You don't really gain that appreciation for an artist until you attempt the same thing they did.
Great challenge but I'm also glad this part is over ?
If I ever improve my playing of this song, I'll hopefully remember to post it here in the Learning Scuttle Buttin thread.
