I think it's a great idea.
I have a few questions about our own church's acoustics and PA system etc...

There are a lot of people on the forum involved with church bands and the production thereof. Discussing the songs/music/techniques used in churches wont be a violation of the T&C of the forum, would it?

Good idea. I mean, we have to put up with the metalheads, so why not!? ?

Seriously though, I cant see why not. And I am curious about the subject and would like to pop into the thread every now and then as well...

I think it'll be great!

I am a youth and music pastor who has been into music and church music for a long time.. So yeah, i think its a good idea.. We'll just keep religion out of it and keep it musically based! ?

I have no problem with the idea ?

I don't know about this. I think we need a dedicated acoustic section first in any case.

If no religion is to be discussed, what is the point? You could ask the same questions in any section, even if they are church related. A PA is a PA!
Then the metal heads will want their own section for sure. And so will everyone else, for each and every style or application. Am I wrong?

Although it does seem like a nice idea to me in theory. I would still like an acoustic section hehehehe

Cant see anything wrong with it. Just that a couple weeks back myself and some others were doing some missionary work for what AJA is trying to promote right now. The elders of the forum were pretty unanimous in the opinion that it was unnecessary and would split the congregation. So, if this is OK'd then I'd like to suggest that the acoustic pilgrims be accommodated as well. But ya, nothing wrong. In this country with freedom of religion written in the constitution this could be a darned interesting thread. A bit naive to think that you can iron fist a bunch of rules in there. The moderators are going to struggle if anyone starts speaking in tongues or something. Would it be Christian church music? And where to put it? Not strictly guitar is it? I love Negro Spirituals (I dont know if we are allowed to call it that anymore but that is what I grew up knowing it as so I'm seriously sorry if it offends), and if such a category could accommodate twood be cool.

Ag and who worries if there is a bit of proselyting?

not been a religous person myself , i have no problem with it , some of the systems these churches run is out of this world and would really love to know more about it .

I think it is a fantastic idea!

The idea behind the Church music thread is to have a thread where church band musicians(and there seems to be plenty on this forum) can discuss all the dynamics of playing in a Church (worship) band.

And these dynamics are very different to playing in clubs and pubs and other events.

And to openly discuss songs and arrangements etc on the General discussion would prove meaningless to all the guys not involved in church music.

The PA's and Sound section would also be different because there are piles of musicians and vocalists, and the songs can go on for much longer than planned.

There is some good prog rock in some church bands! ?

aja wrote: If no religion is to be discussed, what is the point? You could ask the same questions in any section, even if they are church related. A PA is a PA!

Aja does have a point. The questions could be asked anywhere if it's music related.

Although, I think being under a dedicated thread, it would be easier to search. All questions would be under one umbrella so to speak. I assume it would cover all things related to worship teams, just one example, dealing sensibly (and practically) with issues/politics that arise in worship teams (it happens from time to time). Guys who have experienced similar problems can offer advice on how it was successfully handled. Although now that I think about it, it might have to be kept to a strictly technical aspect, because of the spiritual nature of the genre, questions like that would inevitably invoke "religious talk". Personally, I'm for it, I would find it helpful, just not sure if it's workable.

Good idea. I'm all for it

Squonk wrote: The idea behind the Church music thread is to have a thread where church band musicians(and there seems to be plenty on this forum) can discuss all the dynamics of playing in a Church (worship) band.

And these dynamics are very different to playing in clubs and pubs and other events.

And to openly discuss songs and arrangements etc on the General discussion would prove meaningless to all the guys not involved in church music.

The PA's and Sound section would also be different because there are piles of musicians and vocalists, and the songs can go on for much longer than planned.

There is some good prog rock in some church bands! ?

I think Squonk here has hit the nail on the head regarding the approach for this thread.

The idea is to explore music and technique and not any spiritual aspects of church music. There are other forums more suited to that.

At the end of the day we are all musicians who enjoy listening to and performing music under various styles and situations.

As Squonk said..Church music is unique in that the dynamics of church music is quite different from other musical situations such as playing covers, clubs etc.

One of the big pluses of this forum is the great sense of community here and as there are many church musicians on this forum....why not explore this a little further.......

BTW @ aja....an acoustic thread is also a very good idea.

One thing we want to avoid is getting "Clicky" or having an "Us and You" type of thing developing in the forum...although people with similar interests do tend to congregate together....

Matt White wrote: Good idea. I mean, we have to put up with the metalheads, so why not!? ?

Y is everyone hating on the metalheads?? Seriously, this forum is anti-metal!

I'm a Christian Metalhead, so i'm fully in support of a church music thread ?

Sorry for the delayed response - having probs with my connection today on top of my gateway computer dying for a while.

Let me read through all the posts and give it some thought.

doc-phil wrote: Y is everyone hating on the metalheads?? Seriously, this forum is anti-metal!

No hate here - probably more metalheads here than anything else. A few jibes now and again 'cos some of you respond so well. ?

Funnily enough, I was regarded as a metalhead in my school days, because I listened to AC/DC, Saxon, Whitesnake, Rainbow, UFO, Scorpions, Iron Maiden, Purple, Heep and the like. The definition of metal has moved on a bit from then, but that's not my fault.

I also have to laugh at the "Christian Metalhead" idea. I don't have a problem with it at all, but when I think of the relationship Christians used to have with metalheads... I distinctly remember one incident where myself and my bass player were accosted by a girl at school:
"Are you two still Satanists?"
[puzzled looks pass between the two of us]
"Ummm... No!"
"Do you still listen to AC/DC?"
"Umm... Yes."
"So you are still Satanists."
We walked away without a word. Quickly. Then took to collapsing with laughter around the corner.

Now, imagine what that girl would have thought of a "Christian Metalhead"... I'm pretty sure you'd have fried her brains. Both cells.

Nothing wrong with Metalheads!

I am slowly becoming one, I looked in my cupboard and I only have black T-shirts ???

Seriously it's a definate Genre, it's just unfortunate that a lot of the bands depict demons and blood and gore which doesn't sit comfortably with everyone's frame of reference.

It's amazing how rock music is always linked to Satan, I bet that same girl wouldn't have had a problem with Mozart, and he wasn't the beacon of purity, in fact Angus and Malcolm are saints compared him!

nothing beats the genre 'christian black metal' bwahahahahahahaa. paradox?

Squonk wrote: Nothing wrong with Metalheads!

Hey bru, they're like metal man!!!

Once again, are we talking about a specific church or religious persuasion? Or spiritually inclined music.

Funny, still no mention of the acoustic category we tried to get up and running a few weeks back. Same brush boys!

Alan Ratcliffe wrote: Sorry for the delayed response - having probs with my connection today on top of my gateway computer dying for a while.

The definition of metal has moved on a bit from then, but that's not my fault.

LOL!

I remember when I was in Standard 6 a man came to our school to give a talk on "Satanic music"...

He recons if you listen to Maiden , Eddie is gonna come and **** your ****... hehe

Maybe he meant it in a metaphoric way

Bruce Dickenson is far from a satanist... Infact he's a pilot ?