Sorry to butt in but, paraffin aka kerosene is very different petroleum product to naphtha aka naphthalene aka lighter fluid aka benzine. Both can be be bought at any hardware store. One is highly aromatic solvent that could be useful for cleaning grime off, let's say, a fretboard the other is more suited to for fulling Jets and rockets - you be the judge. ?
Cleaning fretboard
I looked into the chemical comp of them a while ago and AFAIK, I'm correct, but I'll check it again. Lighter fluid can't be benzine though - surely it would all evaporate within minutes.
I see mention of paraffin and sandpaper yet Mr.Min is streng verboten...?
Spose it depends on how much you cherish your guitar. I recently went in search of an Ibanez Concord and found one that had been manufactured many years ago (probly in the seventees... serial No. 625) One key missing... nylon and steel strings together... the fretboard so coated in braaijuice it was obvious this thing had never been cleaned in over thirty years. I emptied a can of Mr.Min on her and restrung her with d'Addarios and she's still alive and well and travels by bike in a bag on my back.
Would you do that to your Gibson...? probly not ?
Spose it depends on how much you cherish your guitar. I recently went in search of an Ibanez Concord and found one that had been manufactured many years ago (probly in the seventees... serial No. 625) One key missing... nylon and steel strings together... the fretboard so coated in braaijuice it was obvious this thing had never been cleaned in over thirty years. I emptied a can of Mr.Min on her and restrung her with d'Addarios and she's still alive and well and travels by bike in a bag on my back.
Would you do that to your Gibson...? probly not ?
The Mr Min references in the previous posts are just part of a longstanding ribbing of one of our illustrious comrades who has a Mr Min phobia of epic proportions - bit of an inside joke. His initials are AR ..... ? ? ? ? ?DaFiz wrote: I see mention of paraffin and sandpaper yet Mr.Min is streng verboten...?
@ Alan The Zippo Lighter fuel AFAIK is Naphtha however not all Naphtha are 100% Naphthalene (Benzine in SA). In my smoking years I tried substituting Benzine for Zippo fuel. and it usually would have evaporated in about 2 days I then stated mixing about 1/3 paraffin to the benzine and it lasted longer. More than 1/3 paraffin would be too stinky. I've used benzine for years to remove labels off glass and plastic (until I discovered peanut butter). Benzine leaves a slight oily residue on glass and plastic that I would then use Mentholated spirits to remove. Therefore methinks that benzine may be a good solvent for sticky fret boards without raping all the natural oils from the wood - what thinks you?
And not forgetting the recreational value that benzine has.
This forum has better DIY tips than the Popular Mechanics of old! Amazing!I've used benzine for years to remove labels off glass and plastic (until I discovered peanut butter).
I have always used Gibson guitar cleaning fluid for cleaning, including the fretboards. It does the job. I wonder what's in that fluid? It doesn't smell like a petroleum. Hope it's not the same as Mr. Min!
As a rule, anything with silicone in it should be kept away from guitar finishes. I know that at McGibbons they use a specific member of the Pledge aerosol polish range - and they say that one's OK because NO SILICONE.DaFiz wrote: I see mention of paraffin and sandpaper yet Mr.Min is streng verboten...?
OK. Just checked into it at depth and came up with some interesting stuff.
Firstly, I stand corrected - naphtha is not the same as the paraffin oil we get here.
Naphtha is a term used for a wide range of petroleum distillates, (including benzine and paraffin but not the same stuff we call paraffin - as you point out our "paraffin" is actually kerosene) which have chain lengths between 5 and 7 carbon atoms long. The kerosenes have chain lengths of C12 - C15. Petrol falls between the two at C7 - C11 and diesel is C17 and up. I get a little hazy (as one does, working with petroleum products ?) on the exact details, but that's it in a nutshell.
Naphtha often has a tiny amount of benzine in it, but may not contain more than 0.2% for safety, as it is highly carcinogenic. So, using benzine as lighter fuel or a "recreational substance" is probably not advisable. "Lighter fuel" is pure naphtha.
The good news is that paraffin does work well as a cleaner (although is slower to evaporate), is not harmful to delicate finishes. and is a solvent for both oils and waxes (which is what you want in a cleaner). It's also a good product for getting rid of label residue ?
Firstly, I stand corrected - naphtha is not the same as the paraffin oil we get here.
Naphtha is a term used for a wide range of petroleum distillates, (including benzine and paraffin but not the same stuff we call paraffin - as you point out our "paraffin" is actually kerosene) which have chain lengths between 5 and 7 carbon atoms long. The kerosenes have chain lengths of C12 - C15. Petrol falls between the two at C7 - C11 and diesel is C17 and up. I get a little hazy (as one does, working with petroleum products ?) on the exact details, but that's it in a nutshell.
Naphtha often has a tiny amount of benzine in it, but may not contain more than 0.2% for safety, as it is highly carcinogenic. So, using benzine as lighter fuel or a "recreational substance" is probably not advisable. "Lighter fuel" is pure naphtha.
The good news is that paraffin does work well as a cleaner (although is slower to evaporate), is not harmful to delicate finishes. and is a solvent for both oils and waxes (which is what you want in a cleaner). It's also a good product for getting rid of label residue ?
LOL!! Made my morning ?Alan Ratcliffe wrote: I get a little hazy (as one does, working with petroleum products ?)
I just wrote and passed my chem exams 2months ago... PLEASE MAKE IT GO AWAY!!!!Alan Ratcliffe wrote: have chain lengths between 5 and 7 carbon atoms long. The kerosenes have chain lengths of C12 - C15. Petrol falls between the two at C7 - C11 and diesel is C17 and up. I get a little hazy (as one does, working with petroleum products ?) on the exact details, but that's it in a nutshell.
Naphtha often has a tiny amount of benzine in it, but may not contain more than 0.2% for safety, as it is highly carcinogenic. So, using benzine as lighter fuel or a "recreational substance" is probably not advisable. "Lighter fuel" is pure naphtha.
Lol! Now I know who to ask these things in future! My chemistry knowledge is mostly in the "how to blow stuff up" area of expertise. ?Retard wrote: I just wrote and passed my chem exams 2months ago... PLEASE MAKE IT GO AWAY!!!!
Hey, I just said I wrote the exam and Passed it. Nobody said anything about understanding the crap!!!Alan Ratcliffe wrote: Lol! Now I know who to ask these things in future!
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