Advice: Yamaha HS50M or KRK VXT 4?

greetings

Hi guys

I'm trying to compare these two studio monitors. What are the pro's and cons of both? I mix in a small room. I have heard the Yamaha's and they are very flat sounding which is brilliant, but have not heard the VXT's. VXT's are KRK's top of the range, right?

DrGonzo

Frodo Baggins wrote: VXT's are KRK's top of the range, right?

Nope, the KRK Expose 8 speakers are their top of the range. they cost a good R30 clips tho... ouch!

Have no experience with the yamaha's unfortunately but the KRK vxt 4's are really nice but i would probably reckon the yammies to be better for mixing?? dont take my word for it though...

FatBoy

I'm no pro, and I haven't heard the KRK's, but I am very happy with my HS50M's and my boss loves his HS80M's. I seem to recall reading something about the KRK's having a bit too much bottom end, but don't quote me on that

Averatu

Yammy HS80's for me thanx.

Gearhead

You did not ask for opinions on the Yamaha NS10, but read this anyway. It might give you something to think about while choosing nearfield monitors.

Averatu

Gearhead wrote: You did not ask for opinions on the Yamaha NS10, but read this anyway. It might give you something to think about while choosing nearfield monitors.

Where would you get NS10 monitors? Did those not go out of production long ago?

Manfred-Klose

The HS range is the replacement for the ns10's as far as i understand

you will get good mixes out of the Yamaha HS, it just takes a while to get use to

AlanRatcliffe

I haven't heard the HS-series, but I trained on NS10s. They aren't the best sounding speakers by any stretch of the imagination, but they showed up any uglies very quickly (by making them sound even uglier). Once you learned to anticipate what would happen in the bass frequencies (which you couldn't hear on the NS10s), it became very easy to do good mixes on them. Quite simply, if you could make a mix sound good on NS10s, it would always translate to a great sounding mix on anything else. But you'd never want to use them to listen to music for pleasure.

Having said that, I use a pair of KRK V8s (predecessors of the VXT8s) - I like hearing the bass and the KRK V's do it well: big, but tight. They are also great speakers to listen to music on, and I do a lot of that.

I think that with any monitor speaker, if you take the time to learn how mixes made on them will translate to other systems, you'll be OK.

DrGonzo

Manfred Klose wrote: The HS range is the replacement for the ns10's as far as i understand

you will get good mixes out of the Yamaha HS, it just takes a while to get use to

I think the HS is just designed to look like the ns10 for marketing reasons... it is a ported, active , plastic enclosure design, where as the ns10 was passive and unported with different components etc.. major differences in terms of frequency and time domain response

On yamaha's website they claim their MSP studio monitor line was designed by the same guy who designed the NS-10's but dont mention anything about the HS being designed by that guy, so perhaps the MSP line is there attempt at a replacement.

the MSP are vvery nice actually, never worked on the HS series tho..

Attila

@ GH - thanks nice honest article by Phil Ward, I've always wanted NS's all because of the model number and no other reason .... doff hey

Averatu

The HS80's are unforgiving, and no color, they make a bad mix sound bad. As Alan said re NS10's, not suitable for easy listening.

majestikc

The HS range isn't meant as a replacement or substitute for the NS10's, they're pretty much their own thing, the original NS10's are almost impossible to find, now and then a set pops up on eBay for a LOT, the NS10m's though are everywhere and you can pick them up off eBay for around R8000.

chrisbark

I have a pair of VXT6 and they are the business, for recording/mixing and for general listening.

I agree with Alan the bass end is a bit exaggerated but it is tight as hell ... Extra bass doesn't bother me because I want to hear and feel the bass and IMO a lot of 4/5/6 inch monitors don't give you bass you can really feel.

The VXT also has LF and HF adjustment toggle switches so you can cut the bass down quite a lot if you really need to.

After using the VXTs all other monitors make me wanna smoke KRK ?

doc-phil

Don't mean to hijack this thread... but what is the best way to go about connecting studio monitors to a PC? Is a 1/4" jack into my POD HD400 phones input ok?

I'm thinking of getting these:

http://www.samsontech.com/samson/products/studio-monitors/resolv/resolva5/

Would these be a good place to start for a set of entry-level monitors?

AlanRatcliffe

If you are using the POD as your audio interface then you'd hook the monitors up to that. However, most monitors have balanced inputs, so you'd normally use those before anything else, then your unbalanced 1/4" next, then only your 'phones out.