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there are a couple of these little fings around. you plug your axe in one end and your ipod/iphone in the other, and robert's your father's brother. i've seen them in mags, on the net, but can't seem to find them on the reef. anyone know anyone in jhb and surrounds who carries such beasts?
    I bought mine off ebay. The irig is ok. There are some feedback issues when using headphones. Guess it depends what you going to use it for. You may also want to look at Apogee JAM Guitar Input. I dont know if it works with amplitube and the likes, but it's digital
      slipx wrote:The irig is ok. There are some feedback issues when using headphones.
      Could you elaborate on this perhaps? I don't understand why there would be feedback issues when using headphones specifically. Are you saying that when you do use headphones there are feedback issues but when you don't there are not feedback issues? Sounds odd. What sort of feedback issues are you talking about?
        I'm talking about the high pitched squeel you will get if your input or output gain is set to high. I got feedback though the headphones and when using external speakers. Its manageable if you adjust gain but this can affect the sound, especially if you like heavy distortion or overdrive effects. The irig is not an active circuit but I reccomend you google some reviews before buying one. i.e. http://www.ipadcreative.com/blog/2011/1/13/irig-vs-ampkit-link-which-is-better-part-2-of-2.html Overall its not a bad piece of kit but dont expect too much from it
          5 days later
          IK Multimedia sent me the iRig for free and asked me to review it. I actually did not find anything I liked about it other than the clean sound and even then.....

          It is kinda neat but is kinda like a toy or novelty.

          Too bad, I was really excited when it arrived and really wanted to find lot's to like.
            Just so you guys know, the Apogee JAM is not shipping yet (it was just recently announced) and will probably only start shipping sometime next month. We should have them in the latter part of May, early June.

            We also do the Peavey Ampkit Link, which you can get your local music store to order if they don't have in stock.
              Mr T wrote: We also do the Peavey Ampkit Link, which you can get your local music store to order if they don't have in stock.
              Thats good to know! Any idea on RRP? Are you allowed to publish that?
                Not allowed to, sorry.

                You're going to have to call your favourite music store to get you a price.
                  Pity... Alrighty, will just have to phone and find out then!

                  Thanks though, didnt think these devices were available here in SA!
                    Actually I should have been clear that my dissatisfaction was with the iPhone AmpliTube software....not the actual iRig itself. Also, I have no idea whether the software is any better these days, due to updates.... plus I still only have an older 3G. I am grabbing the latest update now to see if it is any better....they claim a new DSP for the amp models....we'll see. ?

                      12 days later
                      If anyone's still interested, I noticed today that MusicMate in Sandton City has iRig's for R700 a piece.
                        Thanks, I'm still interested. I might go and check it out. But I'm still looking at all the software that's out there to use with it. And there's a whack. Thanks to all y'all for the input (that's a pun, by the way - sorry), and I'll be ingesting it all and doing more research. I'll be sure and let you know what the outcome is.

                        Cheers
                        dh
                          6 months later
                          domhatch wrote: Thanks, I'm still interested. I might go and check it out. But I'm still looking at all the software that's out there to use with it. And there's a whack. Thanks to all y'all for the input (that's a pun, by the way - sorry), and I'll be ingesting it all and doing more research. I'll be sure and let you know what the outcome is.

                          Cheers
                          dh
                          Hey dh, did you ever get to trying this stuff out? I am looking at getting an iRig to mess around with.

                          Has anyone had any experience with this yet? Is it worth it? Does anyone know where I can get such devices?

                          Thanks for any info!
                            shaundtsl wrote: Hey dh, did you ever get to trying this stuff out? I am looking at getting an iRig to mess around with.

                            Has anyone had any experience with this yet? Is it worth it? Does anyone know where I can get such devices?

                            Thanks for any info!
                            howdy. nope, never did. thought my money would be better spent elsewhere, and i was correct. hence, reaper! same price, give or take, and i get the whole bang shoot plus some.
                              iRig is quite cool. Bought mine for R700 from Music Connection. I've got both an iPhone and iPad but only use it on iPad due to the bigger screen. Although it's made for Amplitube (the amp simulator app), I use it exclusively for GarageBand on iPad. I cannot speak highly enough about GarageBand. For the guy like me, who wants to record basic songs, it's great! Obviously the quality is not the same as using say a Focusrite audio interface, but the fact that you can get some pretty neat songs created directly on an iPad has definite appeal. I've read that the Apogee Jam is meant to have a better sound than the iRig and Ampkit but where the iRig is $40, the Jam is over $100 (I think).
                                Mattocaster wrote: iRig is quite cool. Bought mine for R700 from Music Connection. I've got both an iPhone and iPad but only use it on iPad due to the bigger screen. Although it's made for Amplitube (the amp simulator app), I use it exclusively for GarageBand on iPad. I cannot speak highly enough about GarageBand. For the guy like me, who wants to record basic songs, it's great! Obviously the quality is not the same as using say a Focusrite audio interface, but the fact that you can get some pretty neat songs created directly on an iPad has definite appeal. I've read that the Apogee Jam is meant to have a better sound than the iRig and Ampkit but where the iRig is $40, the Jam is over $100 (I think).
                                Great thanks! I am getting an iPad next week for my wife, and I have an iPhone so I am keen to check it out. That's pretty much what I wanted to hear.

                                Thanks Mattocaster!
                                  Ok. Just got a ipod touch 4th gen as a gift from my awesome lady. Started doing the research. There's a lot more to be said on this issue.

                                  Going to be brief because I need to go get some breakfast ?

                                  Firstly, I'm not surprised Highway Chile was unimpressed. The original version was using amplitube's old models which are now obsolete essentially. The modelling quality of, for example, the iphone/ipod amplitube Fender is as good as the PC app which, as we've discussed before, may not give you the organic low end overdrive of the real thing, but is certainly great for making demos and practising.

                                  But then the bad news. Turns out that the interfaces that connect through the headphone jack introduce noise and "feedback" (don't quite understand why feedback per se, but this is a real issue). Check this out. Irig, vs. a dock (30pin iphone/ipod base plug) connector:

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                                  Turns out ikmultimedia aren't the only ones in this game. The best connector appears to be the guitarjack from sonoma wire works who also make the much loved 4 track recording app. Now this little guy does connect through the dock. It also has a built in line-level input (although only through an 1/8" jack so conventional mikes will need an adaptor).

                                  http://www.sonomawireworks.com/guitarjack/

                                  They are also bringing out their own guitar and effect modeller that will have the advantage of being compatible with their much more hi-fi input option, and will be able to move tracks more easily back and forth from recording apps than amplitube.

                                  Then there's another modeller (that also works with guitarjack - amplitube did not, not sure if the new guitarjack for iphone 4/ipod touch 4th gen does yet): ampkit. This is just another option and clearly more flexible for use than amplitube.

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                                  However. For me, the amplitube Fender still has more of what I want. The Fender amps. The amazing IKmultimedia spring reverb sim (better than any pedal out there) and their likewise brilliant tape echo sim. I don't want every effect under the sun (and I certainly have less than no interest in Marshall JCM900s). Now it seems the way to do this is to get the free amplitube Fender - which comes with a Deluxe Reverb (score!) and then individually buy the handful of extras I want - the '59 Bassman, and the tape echo. That'd be me for recording and practising guitar - without extraneous distracting crap - and probably still cheaper than any of the for-a-fee starter packages.

                                  Question is - will I be able to use it with a 30pin dock connector for low-noise recording? The noise test (1st vid) suggests that this is possible somehow. I think though, what they did there was recorded through a dock connector and then reamped through amplitube. So no real time playing through that ☹

                                  Anyway, here's the amplibube Fender review. Please ignore the fact that this fella has presumably never played a blackface Fender since he's awfully surprised that the models start to break up when the volume hits 3-5 ? It's otherwise an excellent review from someone using an iphone for almost all of his recording:

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                                  I'm impressed by this whole scene. This is a going concern. These devices are amazingly powerful little computers and you can do a lot. Furthermore, the pricing model for apps is in another world compared to stand alone products (such as multi fx units, or standalone recorders). So while they may not be perfect, the cost is very low for a huge amount of functionality.

                                  Edit: Speaking of which, another key reason I wanted an ipod touch is because I shoot a lot of film - often on old cameras without light meters, and the lightmeter app is peerless. They have even started using it on commercial film shoots. Because not only do I get to estimate my exposure setting, but having a built in camera, I can actually preview it. This means I can effectively get perfect exposures without fail, every time on a 40 year old twin-lens reflex camera with no meter. That would make the touch worth it even if it literally did nothing else at all.
                                    Singe, you're a legend! If this was your "brief" post before breakfast, I can't wait for your full investigation ?

                                    I also have the 4th gen iPod Touch and, while I've already decided not to get the iRig, I think you've just blown the issue wide open again.
                                      Hmm... Downside of the guitar jack is that it's considerably more expensive than the irig - $150. Although it is of, course doing in one device what Ikmultimedia does in two - mic and guitar. And without the sound quality issues.

                                      Seems to me that the current best solution for guitar tones on these things is to use the guitar jack with ampkit or the guitartone modeller that sonoma's just brought out, and then, if one wants amplitube tones on your demos - then reamp after the fact.