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Could you help me in identifying if this guitar is a Fender or not. I found it in a second hand dealer, but I'm unsure whether it's a fender or a fake. Looks like someone did a pretty bad job trying to restore it, so I'm contemplating buying it, if it is a Fender. I think its a fender Toronado or Jazzzmaster.

    My vote is for fake. Seems like it is a Jazzmaster knockoff.
      I don't know if I'd call it a fake since it doesn't say Fender on it anywhere that I can see. It looks like a home-made guitar to me. I can't see anything about it that I've ever seen on a Fender except for the headstock shape...

      ... and the strings ?
        yep me too ... thats does not look like a fender ........ or any guitar they made........... but plug it in and if it sounds cool buy it .cos it truly is unique but do things like check the intonation cos most "homemade " guitars if this is one suffer from intonation probs when the measurements are just slightly off .......... but yeah it looks interesting ....... and 2x soap bar pickups will have a nice retro sound..

        is it going cheap?? if you don't want it and you in gauteng let me know where i can check it out ....... i like the wierd and wonderful guitars
          Alan Ratcliffe wrote: Nothing about it is Fender.
          Ditto........you got in before me Alan. It is what it says........"Club!!!" ? ?


            My 10 cents worth of advice for Paul..........,Please do yourself a huge favour , before you buy any guitar.
            Go to any of the music shops , take a walk around and familiarise yourself with the various makes , shapes and prices , otherwise you are definitely going to be 'taken' . 8)
              Aubs1 wrote:
              Alan Ratcliffe wrote: Nothing about it is Fender.
              Ditto........you got in before me Alan. It is what it says........"Club!!!" ? ?
              But didn't you notice ...it's a Stereophonic ! ? Stay away Paul from this Frankenstrat.
                singemonkey wrote: I don't know if I'd call it a fake since it doesn't say Fender on it anywhere that I can see. It looks like a home-made guitar to me. I can't see anything about it that I've ever seen on a Fender except for the headstock shape...

                ... and the strings ?
                You have a good eye Singe...but how can you be so sure about them strings..? They look more Ebenez to me.. ?
                  Why do you think that's a Fender. There's nothing in that photo to suggest that it's a Fender or even trying to be passed off as a Fender. And it clearly isn't a Fender.
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                    A Newyorker Stereophonic Club... :-\

                    everyone has said everything there is to say... It looks like nothing I have seen, is probably a homemade or Chinese effort...

                    It's bloody ugly IMO ?
                      maybe you guys are missing the point........

                      i agree it's not fender and i said so above .

                      but maybe it's someones build??? a part caster

                      maybe it's fantastic....maybe it's a dud ....

                      just cos it aint a fender does not mean it's rubbish ..... BUT IT COULD BE ........ you won't know till you plug it in

                      and depending on the price.if the 2nd hand store wants R800 or R1200 for it it could be a gem not JEM ( pun quite intended ) cos you gotta put everything into price brackets....... if it sells for around R1000 we talking the price of an entry level guitar ....... 2nd hand.... so maybe it's a cut above the entry level Ibanez or cort or washburn then it's worth the money ........

                      so what i am saying ."don't knock it till you tried it"

                      ? @ Brent i beg to differ on your comment that it's ugly .....it's unique and i think pretty cool kinda thing jack white would play ......... there's a great example of someone not scared to play pawn shop specials and use em at highest levels........ and they in turn give him unique tone......

                      @ Paulj if you not taking it and it's in jhb let me know where it is.i'll go check it out ...........pm where it is....... think this is off centre enough to get my attention
                        Keira WitherKay wrote: maybe you guys are missing the point........

                        i agree it's not fender and i said so above .

                        but maybe it's someones build??? a part caster
                        Not even. Controls, bridge (especially), pups, scratch plate bear no resemblance to any Fender. The parallelogram inlays on the neck... I see two possibilities here
                        1) Somebody has got excited by the shape of the headstock and concluded that the guitar is a fender (which requires a very sketchy knowledge of Fender guitars and ignoring the branding already on the headstock.
                        2) Somebody is taking a chance.

                        Some years ago I went with a drummer to look at a drum kit advertised as "Ludwig". When we go to the seller's home he described the kit as "Ludwig Re-plick-a" (emphasis on the syllable "plick"). The drums were an obvious Ludwig look alike and a bore a small sticker with the word "replica". I couldn't figure out if the seller genuinely didn't know what the word "replica" meant or was trying to con people by advertising the goods as "Ludwig" (which he had), but in any event the deal was not done.

                        Ja. The guitar may have some good things going for it, but if it's being presented as a Fender then it isn't and Fender money should not change hands.
                          Brentcgp wrote: A Newyorker Stereophonic Club... :-\

                          everyone has said everything there is to say... It looks like nothing I have seen, is probably a homemade or Chinese effort...

                          It's bloody ugly IMO ?
                          Well you get Fenders in something approximating that colour (IIRC it's called "firemist") and, let's face it, worse. The body shape looks a bit like a Hofner. It's got that kind of weird late 50s, early 60s funkiness that things like Teiscos had. If I saw somebody playing that in a garage band I'd conclude he was broke. If I saw somebody playing that on stage with Jackson Browne I'd conclude that his name is David Lindley.
                            I think it is interesting looking.
                            What are those little half-moon slots on the top left and top right?

                            P.S. Is one of those tuner knobs different to the rest?
                              I also think it's pretty, in a weird Dew Barrymore kinda way. Not a classic beaut by any means, but nice to look at nevertheless. Will defenitely sound unique - which can be a good or a bad thing. I reckon if its cheap and it plays well - buy it.
                                chris77 wrote: I also think it's pretty, in a weird Dew Barrymore kinda way. Not a classic beaut by any means, but nice to look at nevertheless. Will defenitely sound unique - which can be a good or a bad thing. I reckon if its cheap and it plays well - buy it.
                                I agree, and it will always be the talking point whenever you pull the guitar out.

                                @ Chris , had a real chuckle at the Drew Barrymore quip. But it does explain it completely ?
                                  Wizard wrote: I think it is interesting looking.
                                  What are those little half-moon slots on the top left and top right?

                                  P.S. Is one of those tuner knobs different to the rest?
                                  Indeed it is. So points and money off because it's not all original ?

                                  The little curved slots seem to have some control travelling within them.
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                                    A pinkish guitar with a skull sticker on... A black truss rod cover on a Fender style headstock... I could go on....

                                    Okay I take back what I said about it being ugly... It is in fact FUGLY! ?



                                      thats no tornado and no jazzmaster..... as said many a time thus far it is a fake..... but may play well also, although it may suck.........

                                      I get a kick out of all the guys on junkmail and gumtree who say "genuine fender Kitaar" and then have squire sitting there ?