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ScottyDogg What's BIAB

Band In A Box (Mac software that doesn't really have a Windows equivalent), the closest thing I can think of is the Digitech Trio Pedal, the difference being that BIAB works much, much better ?

Sadly I be interface-less - my entry was tracked (as a test) about an hour before it sold. I'm happy to track something, but I'd have to make a plan (always possible).

I do like the idea of a massive collab - if we look at this month entries, we could always have multiple tracks. One could be singer-songwriter with Stoffeltoo, Mijalle & Wern101, rockstars with Guido, Rodney and Scotty, etc..

Nice entries!

What it came down to is what I thought fit the theme the best.

But I must say, the production value is getting better y the challenge.

    V8 Ah right - yeah, different tracks could work best. So I'm personally happy to try any genre but dunno if others might not be I guess

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    ScottyDogg
    Mac has Garage Band, windows Band in a Box by PG Music. Some genres are very convincing indeed. In addition, midi multi midi styles for virtually every style except death metal, i think.
    Exportable, transposable and elastiquated to suit most DAW's.
    Pricey but worth every cent if a song writer or comping an idea. Couple of Afrikaans pro artists are users i.e. Dozi and Carlo Leone

    Stoffeltoo that’s pretty interesting - I pretty much use VSTs for songwriting (Helix Native for guitars and bass amp sims) and kontakt with a drum library for drums and then write away ?

    ScottyDogg I will reply on guitar talk collaboration. Please follow me there. BTW some purrrty good VST's out there but that's a different topic...

    Tough to vote on this one, I reckon it'll come down to which tune suits your tastes more than which one was the 'best' personal anthem? Because I get the distinct feel that all were persoinal anthems written in your favoured genre?

    Hard work to go through 11 tunes though, hiesh! I tried to think of a way top seperate them into groups, but there wasn't much to easily make categories - maybe Rodney, Scotty, Stud and Stoffel could have been regarded as 'studio' entries with their polished entries - but that would have been spitting hairs though?

    Overall, for me - Studmissile, Stoffeltoo (Buskers), Wern and Mijaelle's entries had a very personal feel. Perhaps it's the acoustic + vocals guitars that draws one in? Stud's was because I've heard many. many of his entries and they're 90% country, so if he didn't do a country tune it would have been super weird...?

    1. @Stolleftoo (w/ Yeti & Guido)

    Intro and key change remind me of Hotel California (big time!) and there's a bit of Chris Isaak in there too? All-in-all, best collaboration I've heard from GT'ers yet - nicely done gents!

    1. @Stoffeltoo (Buskers anthem)

    Another very well put together track, you've nailed getting usable piezo sounds sitting in the mix - I thought all the instruments are really nicely staged and worked well together.

    1. @wern101

    I'd say this is your best work yet? The afrikaans vocal just works, great feel and the lyrics are poignant (in a good way ?). And the overall mix is just magic!

    1. @Mijaelle

    Great vocals, think we'll alllll agree! And so cool to have a feminine entry again, it's been soo long since the last one - hope there's more to come ? A little digital clipping on some of the louder parts of the vocals, but a great entry!

    @RodneyVikens

    Dig itttttt! Sweet intro hook to get us into the song and keep us interested. Thought maybe the dbl kick in the chorus was a bit heavy, but that also maybe my sound system which is bass heavy. Absolutely a alternative!

    @guidothepimmp

    Did I like it when the main riff kicked in - oh you know it! And intelligible vocals...yeah man! Some nicely 80's/90's riffage, bass line worked really well too - simple but drove the groove effortlessly! I'd have kept the solo going over the funky outro bit...

    @studmissile

    Best song title....I did chuckle more than little. Best vocal mix yet, though I thought the bassline (keyboards?) was a little odd for me - probably because it went a little lower than I'd expect a bass guitar could go - maybe I'd stick a bit of chorus/vibrato on the keys to give it a little less of a drone-y feel. Dug this one!

    @klassvakie - Solid dude, super jammable 12bar groove - fills were cool and you kept it interesting with some rhythm changes and drum fills - not all of the them worked, but I dug it!

    @Scottydog - Sheessh, great track. I really like the concept of sampling the toy - super cool little melody you worked into the tune - slick! And the mix is pretty darn epic, ready for radio!...showed the rest of us how to do it. I'm guessing you've worked on enough tunes to knock it out of the park with your first full length composition - take a bow!

    @warrenpridgeon - Cool lyrics! Stick this one in the archives and work it into a full tune sometime - there's definitely some magic there. Gives me a kinda rocking punk (Tweak/Blink182/Goldfinger) vibes?

    Mine: Well, let's just say I made some rather poor decisions late on Sunday (vocals & overall mix is FAR too loud). But I still dig the riff...all 52 bars of it (+/-28s) ?

    So y'all take a bow - most entries I can recall - and, for me, everyone invested a little bit of themselves into each tune, which is a win all round.

    V8 lol yeah, around 20 hours to write and record the parts with dozens of takes to get them how I wanted them - I’ll never dual track leads again lol - and 8-10 hours mixing (along with 3-4 years mixing training) to get that sound ?

    Also, the double kick in @RodneyVikens choruses are great, I promise (I mixed the track and automated out a bunch of low end to keep it from building but wanted to keep in some oomph for hard hitting choruses) ?

    I guess my song maybe isn’t a persons first choice for an anthem (and that’s ok, all that matters is it’s one for me) but in terms of hitting the theme and doing it with some great songwriting and style, @RodneyVikens takes it for me without a doubt and every day of the week

    ScottyDogg Thanks. =) WOuld love to learn the basic of drumming at some point. Will probably watch a youtube video at some point. Borrowed my Midi keyboard back (Graphit 49 I bought for R1000 many many years ago, friend borrowed it for the last 3-5 years) and will watch some basic videos on how to play piano. So next track hope to add some keys....

    ScottyDogg the 8 to 10 hours mixing shows. Everything sounded top notch.
    I will definitely be spending time on youtube learning how to mix.
    Stoffeltoo gave me some great pointers to get me started.. but still a long way to go.

    V8 thank you for your analyses.
    Buskers anthem is really where i aspire to be busking on a sidewalk but way to shy..
    Besides the lyrics, the recipe...
    Drums and bass from Band in a Box real instruments. Keys from Band in a Box midi chord sequencer.
    Acoustics done by me and lead tingely bits as well on a Fender straht. The bite was ear splitting though.
    The instruments and vocals mixed in Cakewalk and TTS1 used for getting that string sound on the keys.

    Muscle Cars and sleazy Bars. Would not have been here if Yeti and Guidothepimmp dit not agree on the collaboration. Hats off to two amazing musicians who really provided colour to a dull track. Again, bass and drums in BIAB as well as midi arpeggiators.
    Acoustic rhythm by me and the rest by Yeti and Guido. This is incidentally my first collaboration using only gmail as a comms medium and was truly impressed with lead and vocals?

    Also mixed in Cakewalk.

    What did I learn?
    1st: making music is fun
    2nd: give your ears a break when mixing
    3rd: use compression
    4th: use reverb sparingly
    Lastly trust other musician's interpretations of presented work

    I would really like to extend a thank you to every competitor. You guys did amazing songs with genres all over the show which added to the diversity of the anthems. Not sure if the number of entries is a record though.

    Ah and a last thought. Waiting for the opportunity to get Majaelle and Wern101 in a duet.....

    I will give some feedback on the tracks prob tomorrow... I need to not be so "sleg" when it comes to the challenges...
    I really enjoy the process of creating music... But I'd like to produce something more complete next time.

      Yeh i will also give my spiel tomorrow. Im glad to finally be able to participate. Been enjoying it and learning a lot

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      guidothepimmp yeah man and there’s still so much to get right still lol - definitely is a lifelong endeavor to mix music!

      I saw an interview of Jens Bogren (epic mixer - has done Opeth and tons of other big bands like Dimmu Borgir, Sepultura, At The Gates) where he said he’s not a fan of his mix on Opeth’s “Watershed” because it’s a little too mid heavy for his taste. I personally think it’s fantastic and don’t hear signs of it being mid heavy lol

      RodneyVikens thanks. =) WOuld love to learn the basic of drumming at some point. Will probably watch a youtube video at some point. Borrowed my Midi keyboard back (Graphit 49 I bought for R1000 many many years ago, friend borrowed it for the last 3-5 years) and will watch some basic videos on how to play piano. So next track hope to add some keys....

      Yeah - it's handy to at least study drums and understand what humans are capable of (so easy to program impossible drums!) and also build on ideas for how to write cool fills and advanced beats. I need to get off my ass and learn how to play keyboard - opens many doors I think

      Well done again everyone. I'll reserve comment till after voting.

      V8 I'd say this is your best work yet? The afrikaans vocal just works, great feel and the lyrics are poignant (in a good way ?). And the overall mix is just magic!

      It does kinda feel that way ? Although I have done other songs that I really like, the recording quality was always pretty shocking. That does make them sound horrible imo. This song does need something though...a chello... or violin or someting 'orchestral'...

      Stoffeltoo Waiting for the opportunity to get Majaelle and Wern101 in a duet....

      Yikes. I'd be outclassed for sure.

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      Well done to all, 11 entries, I'm sure that's a record!

      For me it ended up being pretty much a 3-way tie between @guidothepimmp , @ScottyDogg and @wern101. Really loved the music box theme on @ScottyDogg's song, and would've taken my vote if it had words I think. @wern101 as was really powerful piece of music and I really liked it. In the end @guidothepimmp ended up taking it for me because it felt slightly more anthemy (if that's a word).

      I also like the feel of @V8's entry, but don't have the foggiest idea how I would go about making something in that style. If I ever get down to cape town again @V8, I'll have to meet you at the gear junkie and you will have to show me some stuff.

      I was super impressed by the amount of effort everyone put in. I think these challenges have progressed passed the point were you can win with a quick sunday-night slap-together.