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Soooo My Friend Wayde "WHMC" on Forum (Got the ESP LTD MH1000 DELUXE FR From him) sent me a msg 2ay and said he has a Jackson JS32-8Q 8 String for me..soooo amped!!! Picking it up on Sunday!!!

Sooooooooooooo Beautifull!!!!

    Sweet!

    What you going to play it through to get the low strings clear?
      singemonkey wrote: Sweet!

      What you going to play it through to get the low strings clear?
      thanx bud,straight into my GT10 into one of my Hughes & Kettner 100watt Heads
        a month later
        Swopped my 8 String for a Fender Tele...couldnt be happier...i haaaaaateeee a 8 string!!!! will stick to my 6 and 7 strings from now on
          first time i have read this thread
          it made me laugh ?
            Wormwood wrote: first time i have read this thread
            it made me laugh ?
            ummm...now why would it make u laugh????
              Cos it's like, 'woooooooooooo, amazeballs 8 string!!' to 'aaaargh, kak 8 string in 2 months'. In the same ngd thread. ?
                @Armand: I find right hand picking-prowess/stamina etc. to be more elusive to master than left hand dexterity, especially regarding things like legato etc. It does take quite a while to achieve but it is doable. I guess right hand technique is especially important for 8-string playing?

                Anyway, what worked well for me is I started with chromatic 4-note per string picking exercises, I first started doing it with triplets as I've found the movement felt more relaxed as opposed to 16th notes. Build up to a decent speed using triplets +-180bpm and then you start doing it in 16th notes at about 120bpm. You have to start slow if you want to build stamina.
                You might as well mix it up after that, triplet, 16th, triplet, 16th etc.

                Patience is key.
                  Armand wrote: i haaaaaateeee a 8 string!!!! will stick to my 6 and 7 strings from now on
                  In fairness those Jacksons aren't the best thought out 8 string you could get ?
                    Chad Adam Browne wrote:
                    Armand wrote: i haaaaaateeee a 8 string!!!! will stick to my 6 and 7 strings from now on
                    In fairness those Jacksons aren't the best thought out 8 string you could get ?
                    I'm pretty clueless when it comes to extended range guitars so what would you look for in a high class 8-string?
                      Charlie4 wrote: I'm pretty clueless when it comes to extended range guitars so what would you look for in a high class 8-string?
                      Well the bridge that one comes with is a nice design, as it's essentially a copy of the Hipshot hardtail, but that's about where my admiration of them went. I'm gonna do this in bullet points to explain what I don't like about them, and most budget 8s really:

                      * The scale length is 26.5" which just isn't that great for that F# or E (If you like to drop it) for instance my 8 sits at 27" and the tension spread on it using a .010 gauge set of strings with a .060 for the low B more or less centered in at an increasing tension from about 13lbs going up to about 15lbs, with mine tuned at E with a .080 gauge lowest string it still only sits at about 14lbs of tension, so a .082 or .084 would have been better but this starts to create a negative effect tonally and makes strings about 100x more difficult to find and would require drilling open the post on the machine head.

                      * This 8 can only accept up to about a .074 because the machinehead isn't wide enough and the scale doesn't allow for you to just slip the taper in the machinehead, which is a massive problem if you look at my above string tension qualm.

                      * The pickups these come with are not very good, now I know what you're thinking "Just get some new ones" but here's where the problem comes in, likewise with the Ibanez S series 8 strings (Cause they use the same pickup, just not rebranded), the pickups in this are smaller than an active soapbar housing but larger than the traditional passive housing so either your pickup won't fit or you'll need to route out wood depending on which option you go for.

                      * It has a great big square neck joint, I know some people think that's fine, but it's not, it doesn't take that much more time for a CNC machine to knock off the corners and round it out a little bit. This problem is annoying enough on strats but with a neck this much wider it becomes even more of a hindrance.

                      * The body is quite small but the headstock is quite large and this wasn't compensated for with lighter weight machineheads so these tend to have a fair bit of neck dive, in fairness so do the RGs, but it is more pronounced with these 8s.

                      * Hipshot sell their original version of this bridge with a shortened saddle to intonate the 8th string correctly, this doesn't have one of those so you're almost guaranteed to be zeroing out the low saddle while potentially not hitting the point you want anyway.

                      * Fretboard is bound, which may look nice but it does mean that you'll pay more to have it refretted and the nice big strings you've gotta use for an 8 not only eat through frets faster but also require the frets be kept in better condition as they have a wider vibrational arch and are therefore more susceptible to introducing buzz and fretting out if the frets aren't the correct relationship of heights with each other.

                      These are all just my personal opinions so take em with a pinch of salt and all that ?
                        Armand wrote: ummm...now why would it make u laugh????
                        cause it was like Yeeaaah 8 string!!
                        and then uaaaagh 8 string!!!

                        oh, the monkey guy already said that
                          Wormwood wrote:
                          Armand wrote: ummm...now why would it make u laugh????
                          cause it was like Yeeaaah 8 string!!
                          and then uaaaagh 8 string!!!
                          Charlie4 wrote: Patience is key.
                          Is the cure for G.A.S...!

                          I have my own little mantra "Basses have 4 strings, Banjo's 5 and guitars 6...the rest is mainly visual" :?

                          Heh, actually it blows my mind when someone skilled rocks out anything that doesn't fit into the traditional mold, I just don't kid myself that it's for me.


                            First Wayde and now Armand...
                            Damn, this Jackson JS32-8Q POS should be set alight and smashed before it does any more damage! ?

                            We should make a sticky thread - guide to buying an 8 string.
                              I tried playing an 8 string recently... I think it was an Ibanez of some sort... I felt so lost, was like playing a whole different instrument all together. The extremely wide neck was uncomfortable and confusing. I found use for the 7th string, but the 8th string felt pointless. :-\
                                psyx wrote: I tried playing an 8 string recently... I think it was an Ibanez of some sort... I felt so lost, was like playing a whole different instrument all together. The extremely wide neck was uncomfortable and confusing. I found use for the 7th string, but the 8th string felt pointless. :-\
                                my point exactly!!!!!
                                  Thanks Chad, that was very insightful. You should actually start a how to thread cause this information I found to be very valuable. 8)
                                    Armand wrote:
                                    psyx wrote: I tried playing an 8 string recently... I think it was an Ibanez of some sort... I felt so lost, was like playing a whole different instrument all together. The extremely wide neck was uncomfortable and confusing. I found use for the 7th string, but the 8th string felt pointless. :-\
                                    my point exactly!!!!!
                                    It's not for everyone, but to be honest in my experience I've never walked into a guitar store and picked up a seven or eight that I felt did justice to their possibility cause most people working there don't care or don't want to go through the shlep of figuring them out and setting them up properly. Even my 8 string which is the RG2228 Prestige was totally shit when I first pulled it out the box, literally on the day I took it home I restrung and completely setup the thing and afterwards I was in love and felt somewhat less terrible about the enormous amount of money it cost me ?

                                    I have big hands so the neck width doesn't bother me ?
                                    Charlie4 wrote: Thanks Chad, that was very insightful. You should actually start a how to thread cause this information I found to be very valuable. 8)
                                    It would be cool, but it would just be my very limited experience with them and I wouldn't want to put myself forward as some sort of guru on 8 strings when all I really know are my preferences ?
                                      Yes definitely, the 8 string hasn't had the huge amount of develepment that the 6s and 7s have, so expecting it to be amazing off the shelf isn't a reality. Modding and setting up to your preferences can take lot of time and patience. And adapting your playing style. Its difficult to feel like a noob again but its just another hurdle..
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