Hi Alan: the Fuel Tank Classic was my first option until I read that it doesn't have isolated outputs. I may be mistaken? From what I read up its best to have isolated outputs? I have also read about the CIOKS. Will call some music stores. I don't mind pushing my budget up to about R2000 if I can find something like the Classic but with isolated outputs.
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Oops sorry I only saw the other replies after responding. But I have decided to go for a power supply with all isolated outputs. Thought I could get away with the Chameleon and daisy chain the drive pedals. I will definitely have to call some more music shops. Honestly when I designed the (now somplified) pedalboard I had no idea how important a power supply is.
I've been an electronics tech forever, if I can help give me a shout. Typically power supplies cause shit when they are running out of available amperage and start rippling causing hum etc. If I recall the old Boss RV2 digital reverb drew about 800mA and the DD2 about 500mA. Overdrives draw the least as they are analogue pedals. Depending on wiring, earth loops cause problems as well. A simple mod on signal cables lifting the ground with a 10 ohm resistor can help sort out a lot of problems as well. I would have thought the idiots that designed pedals would think about these things and that us guitarists would NEVER only have one pedal hahaha. I used to built my mates custom 5A fan cooled power supplies, huge overkill but I believe very highly in overkill. A good power supply should be well filtered and have a choke on the voltage output. It should be dead flat on an oscilloscope with full load connected. Luckily you can now get high quality switch mode power supplies which are high current and weigh next to nothing.
All the manufacturers of isolated output power supplies do is to either have a voltage regulator for each output (simple to do) or they just take the one voltage (typically 10vdc for a 9v supply) and tap off the required amount of outputs each through a diode (each one giving a drop of .7v) a you have a 9.3 vdc supply x the amount of outputs required. The latter is crude but works lol
All the manufacturers of isolated output power supplies do is to either have a voltage regulator for each output (simple to do) or they just take the one voltage (typically 10vdc for a 9v supply) and tap off the required amount of outputs each through a diode (each one giving a drop of .7v) a you have a 9.3 vdc supply x the amount of outputs required. The latter is crude but works lol
Ok I'm increasing my budget for the power supply. Want to buy once and futureproof my board as well. It's down to one of three now:
1) Cioks DC 8 or 10 (still no idea of price or supplier)
2) Voodoo Lab PP2+ (same as 1 above)
3) BBE Supa Charger (R2200; local music shop)
So if you guys have any leads where I can get the Cioks or Voodoo Lab at a good price let me know. Thanks.
1) Cioks DC 8 or 10 (still no idea of price or supplier)
2) Voodoo Lab PP2+ (same as 1 above)
3) BBE Supa Charger (R2200; local music shop)
So if you guys have any leads where I can get the Cioks or Voodoo Lab at a good price let me know. Thanks.
CIOKS has surpassed the PP2 and is better definitely than the BBE. CIOKS>PP2>BBE. Get the DC10. You can order it from overseas here: http://www.guitareffectspedals.com/CIOKS-DC10-Power-Supply-p47.html
I can also vouch for them. That's where I got my DC10.Danny B wrote: CIOKS has surpassed the PP2 and is better definitely than the BBE. CIOKS>PP2>BBE. Get the DC10. You can order it from overseas here: http://www.guitareffectspedals.com/CIOKS-DC10-Power-Supply-p47.html
Yep... Cioks ftw ?
Got my dc8 from guitareffectsoedals.com too!
Got my dc8 from guitareffectsoedals.com too!
I'm also in the market for a power supply, I was astonished at the prices though! But I think the Fuel tank Jr. is perfect for my needs. Any opinions on it?
Thanks for the link guys. Anyone from Cape Town buying Cioks power supplies? Thinking of buying the Cioks DC 10 but want to save on shipping costs seeing that I'm pushing my budget. However I don't fully get when they say 10 outputs configured as 8 isolated outputs.
Eight isolated output sections (taps), configured as ten outputs. If you look the last four outputs are basically two pairs and each pair is isolated, but the two outputs within the pair are shared. Those are the high power outs that have double the amperage of the other outputs and are switchable to 12V. So you can plug in one high power pedal to get the full amperage or two pedals to share.funkadelic wrote: However I don't fully get when they say 10 outputs configured as 8 isolated outputs.
Isolation is ideal, but not always necessary - many pedals will happily live together on the same power output. But having a few isolated outputs limits your chances of problems (or allows you to shift things around to get rid of problems). My last big board had a DC-10 and I had three pedals running from the first output with no problems. I also had a NovaDrive and a Timefactor on the two high power taps and was not using the second shared out on each of those taps.
Hope that explains it...
7 months later
How is the noise? Did get your hum sorted with the new Power Supply?