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Hi all,

A little while back there was a Gibson SG for sale in the classifieds section but I don't see it listed anymore: if you're the seller please let me know if you did offload it or, if not, if you're still looking to sell? I'm looking for a decent quality (and value) instrument for a good friend of mine for her first electric (she's a long time acoustic player and wants an electric), it needs to be relatively small bodied as she's quite petite: when she picks up one of my Strats it positively dwarfs her.

I'm recommending her towards a "big name" brand (i.e. Gibson) with humbuckers or P90s, she's a relatively well-established semi-pro performer here in Joburg (and previously on TV in Idols where she made a top 15 finish a few years back if I remember right) and my opinion is that if she's going to go electric it needs to be an identifiable "pro" brand. Also me and her bass-playing boyfriend, who's a best friend and band mate of mine, agree she'd look smokin' hot with an SG!

If the SG that was listed in the classifieds section isn't available anymore: does anyone else have an SG for sale? I see Costab has/had a nice looking cherry red Les Paul Jr for sale which I like the look of (I've dropped him a PM about it as well as forwarding the ad on to her to see if it's something she'd like).

If you're not the seller of that SG in the classifieds but have an opinion on the suggestions/advice I'm giving her, feel free to post.

Thanks,

Sebber.
    "Also me and her bass-playing boyfriend, who's a best friend and band mate of mine, agree she'd look smokin' hot with an SG!"

    Is that your motivation for getting her an SG? What happened to tone and taste? She has been playing an acoustic - rather direct her to a Tele. That should be easier for her to adapt to. I am disappointed that looks are more important than her ability to play.

    Edit: I hope that this doesn't sound too belligerent ?
      Many of the Musicmans have smaller bodies (Axis, Luke, JP6). Also the Jackson Dinky. An SG is slender, but not that much smaller than a Strat, Likewise a Tele. Junior (or special) is also an option. Still, if she's used to playing an acoustic, I'd steer her Tele-ways - still smaller than an acoustic and tonally more "at home" for an acoustic player.

      @Chabenda - like it or not, it's an important marketing consideration. What's important though is that the lady in question is happy with marketing herself in that way.
        Alan Ratcliffe wrote: Many of the Musicmans have smaller bodies (Axis, Luke, JP6). Also the Jackson Dinky. An SG is slender, but not that much smaller than a Strat, Likewise a Tele. Junior (or special) is also an option. Still, if she's used to playing an acoustic, I'd steer her Tele-ways - still smaller than an acoustic and tonally more "at home" for an acoustic player.

        @Chabenda - like it or not, it's an important marketing consideration. What's important though is that the lady in question is happy with marketing herself in that way.
        Alan - I respect your being in the know, accept your point, acknowledge that I am an era or two in dinosaur family trees away from modern music, and I love SG's but this did strike me, in my dumbassedness, perhaps on a misdirected gender basis, as an odd post. You live and you learn ?
          I was selling a Gibson SG in the classified and it is now gone, but the suggestions here are good, a Tele sounds like a nice fit, if you wish for a more rock look go for a tele in black with black pickguard maybe
            Chabenda wrote: acknowledge that I am an era or two in dinosaur family trees away from modern music
            I'm three years younger than you. ?
              Young lady with any electric looks good ? IMO of course
                Many thanks for the responses and suggestions guys, and thanks WesleyWard for letting me know it's gone, that looked like a sweet axe!

                One of my main considerations for suggesting an SG or Les Paul Jr was scale length: she's petite, her hands are small. At this moment in time she's very much a "strummer" only, so whilst she's a long term acoustic player she never really got beyond strumming and arpeggiating chords. She's asked me to teach her some more advanced techniques, scales, riffing, soloing and improvisation so I want to source her an instrument that's going to be as easy as possible for her to get on with in pursuing these goals. That's also the reason why I'm thinking something with P90s or humbuckers, they sound more naturally compressed than Fender-style single-coils and, in my opinion, that makes them more suitable for players looking to learn and develop their electric playing skills.

                On the image thing: she's an attractive young lady, and like many such women she dolls herself up when she goes out and plays... like it or not that's the way of the world and nobody knows that better than the women themselves who take the time and effort to make themselves look as lovely as possible. I can assure you she has no problem getting up in front of a crowd whilst looking like a million bucks!

                Note: she's asked me to provide suggestions on an electric guitar for her, the choice at the end of the day is entirely hers and hers alone.
                  If she's already playing acoustic, a Fender scale length isn't going to be a problem - she's used to playing much higher tension and action already. Any electric is going to feel like heaven. As a fairly small person myself, I can tell you that body size/shape/depth is more of an issue than scale length or hand size - which can also be offset by how high she plays (look at Poison Ivy from the Cramps, rocking Gretsches, bud doing it fairly low). Oh yeah - and weight's a biggie.

                  As to humbuckers or single-coils, what style of music is she playing? Then again, you can learn to use just about anything in any style.

                  So my short list is still:
                  Musicman
                  Telecaster
                  Les Paul Junior
                  Les Paul Special
                  Gibson Nighthawk (just thought of that - remembered seeing Nancy Wilson with one)
                    Alan Ratcliffe wrote: If she's already playing acoustic, a Fender scale length isn't going to be a problem - she's used to playing much higher tension and action already. Any electric is going to feel like heaven. As a fairly small person myself, I can tell you that body size/shape/depth is more of an issue than scale length or hand size - which can also be offset by how high she plays (look at Poison Ivy from the Cramps, rocking Gretsches, bud doing it fairly low). Oh yeah - and weight's a biggie.

                    As to humbuckers or single-coils, what style of music is she playing? Then again, you can learn to use just about anything in any style.

                    So my short list is still:
                    Musicman
                    Telecaster
                    Les Paul Junior
                    Les Paul Special
                    Gibson Nighthawk (just thought of that - remembered seeing Nancy Wilson with one)
                    I agree that the scale length isn't going to be a problem, though she loves playing on my Taylor GS Mini so she definitely seems to enjoy playing on shorter scale lengths, but I'd like to recommend something that she'd take to as easily as possible. Style of music is all sorts, pop/rock, blues, covers... great thinking on the Gibbo Nighthawk, that one hadn't occurred to me but I hear it's a very versatile option and they do look rather cool!

                    Budget is around R8000, hence looking at 2nd hand and at options like Les Paul Jr or a lower-end SG model. Not sure how many 2nd hand Nighthawks there are out there, what sort of price do they go for new, do you know?
                      The Nighthawk's are very underrated - one of the best guitars G's ever made (IMO). A real sleeper...

                      About R15K retail, new. I've seen two sales of the originals in the last year. Usually about R6K - R7K. Try get the three pickup version.

                      Oh yeah - don't forget the Gibson Melody Maker, which is more what the LP Special used to be - wrap around bridge and P90s. Added bonus is they are affordable ($569). The Modern Juniors are more conventional LPs (HBuckers and stop tailpiece).
                        Susanna Hoffs is 1.57 and plays a Ric - maybe a thought? I've always understood the whole Bangles/Ric thing to be mainly about hand size...
                          Suggest to her a Pink Paisley Tele.
                            Tokai SA wrote: Suggest to her a Pink Paisley Tele.
                            Perfect!
                              Here's a dumb idea....I bought my lad a 3/4 strat for Xmas, has smaller body and scale.... And looks the biz ness...


                              Possibly a full scale neck can be grafted onto the 3/4 body, she is welcome to come try the strat too....

                              Cheers
                                IceCreamMan wrote: Here's a dumb idea....I bought my lad a 3/4 strat for Xmas, has smaller body and scale.... And looks the biz ness...
                                There are very few pro level short scale guitars though...

                                Possibly a full scale neck can be grafted onto the 3/4 body
                                Not without also moving the bridge. Trems obviously are that much more complex.
                                  Another one is the Parker Fly (the proper one). While not really smaller and fairly expensive, they are ergonomic, slender as anything and weigh under 2.5 kgs.
                                    Sean wrote: Young lady with any electric looks good ? IMO of course
                                    Yeah but with Tele, you look GREAT!