But still bear Reinhard's advice in mind. There are a lot of injuries in any basic training program.

singemonkey wrote: But still bear Reinhard's advice in mind. There are a lot of injuries in any basic training program.

Any injury an they ship you out home an u need to reapply

IceCreamMan wrote:

singemonkey wrote: But still bear Reinhard's advice in mind. There are a lot of injuries in any basic training program.

Any injury an they ship you out home an u need to reapply

Yip I know. That is why I am training. I am going to do this. ?

well you need to do what you gonna do...... so i hope your dreams get realised



but i do hope you one tough sob..... and i don't mean physically ....

ask yourself if you can handle the reality that you are putting yourself in a life and death situation since there is actual ongoing conflict ........ this is very real ... not a movie or video game. war is not pretty or fun or even glamerous as movies make out even peace keepers get killed .....

and more than that can you live with the idea that you could actually kill someone ... in a far away country ....war and killing to defend ones home is one thing when your own country and family is threatened and you are drafted .........but when you go looking for it and sign up ....

traumatic stress of either dying or surviving and of living with the thought you killed someone is a reality ........ which some very tough soldiers never recover from ......

think it through before you sign anything ......

I have don't worry. I'm not afraid of death. There is more chance of you dying in a car than in the warzone. You can die anytime in the civilian world.
And as for killing Its not nice but its part of the job. Mentally I am strong. I have been through a lot that would drive a lot of people to drugs or suicide.

I am a strong willed person. I have been thinking about it for atleast since I was 18.

Daniel Stuart wrote: I have don't worry. I'm not afraid of death. There is more chance of you dying in a car than in the warzone. You can die anytime in the civilian world.
And as for killing Its not nice but its part of the job. Mentally I am strong. I have been through a lot that would drive a lot of people to drugs or suicide.

I am a strong willed person. I have been thinking about it for atleast since I was 18.

Daniel, have you considered signing up closer to home....the air force, navy, etc ? Even the SA Police ? All of these could potentially offer you a good career....

No I am not interested in the sa army. I want out this country. Even if I only do the army for a couple of years then I can try a music career in england.

Its a big step but I need to do this.

My friends sister is angry at me. She doesn't want me to go.

This thread is getting ridiculous, let's lighten it up a little...

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Wait. How's that different to the original? ?

singemonkey wrote: Wait. How's that different to the original? ?

In the original the guitarist (can't remember his name) uses a Fender Strat not an SG. ?

Good luck with this Daniel. I feel that the old national service in SA back in the day gave a lot of laaaaities direction as common lets be honest, who really knows what they want to do with their life at that age?


Vasbyt...........

flatfourfan wrote: Good luck with this Daniel. I feel that the old national service in SA back in the day gave a lot of laaaaities direction as common lets be honest, who really knows what they want to do with their life at that age?


Vasbyt...........

I actually knew exactly what I wanted to do at that time in my life, I wanted to get on with my manufacturing jewellery apprenticeship...the army wasted 2 years of my life and nearly landed me up at the border fighting Cuban forces in Angola...I was saved by no Kosher food available in Grootfontein. ?

What the army did teach me was how to speak Afrikaans, yippeee. :? ?
It also gave me an incredible view of Table Mountain whilst I got tortured in the 'Wit machine' training area at Youngsfield army base.

There are far better things to do with your life than joining an army and learning how to kill.

^^^^ like I said..........a lot of laaaities got direction from it. If you're not one of them, so be it.

National Service wasn't a F#$%ing choice! That's the key difference! [edit] And and of course we where fighting against men who only wanted freedom in the country of their own birth!

And just a heads up, it's not death you should be scared of, it's living with yourself after being exposed to Combat (if you are that is). Regardless of how tough you might be?

flatfourfan wrote: ^^^^ like I said..........a lot of laaaities got direction from it. If you're not one of them, so be it.

Yip. A week ago I was battling with addiction(weed) And it took all my motivation away. I can't get a job in this country that I want to do. And Going to england will be such an opportunity. My goal is the sas in a few years time then after that a high profile body guard.

I will be earning pounds and I worked it out I will earn R200 000 a year after 5 I will have close to a million. You don't have to pay for food or shelter in the army so I will be saving most of my money.

U learnt to gippo....if there were medals for that I would be most decorated man in history...

Being an immigrant I went late to army due to law change in 1984.... Being mucked about by 16 year old indoctrinated buffoons was not ideal....but I think I generally did learn a lot...

Like all wars they pretty senseless but the za war possibly more so....we conjured up a enemy to keep the presence up....

I never actually killed anyone in my service ..glad of that

Tokai SA wrote:

flatfourfan wrote: Good luck with this Daniel. I feel that the old national service in SA back in the day gave a lot of laaaaities direction as common lets be honest, who really knows what they want to do with their life at that age?


Vasbyt...........

I actually knew exactly what I wanted to do at that time in my life, I wanted to get on with my manufacturing jewellery apprenticeship...the army wasted 2 years of my life and nearly landed me up at the border fighting Cuban forces in Angola...I was saved by no Kosher food available in Grootfontein. ?

What the army did teach me was how to speak Afrikaans, yippeee. :? ?
It also gave me an incredible view of Table Mountain whilst I got tortured in the 'Wit machine' training area at Youngsfield army base.

There are far better things to do with your life than joining an army and learning how to kill.

Ahhh Wit Machine........I remember it well.....sandbags on the shoulders and back and forth through the water until we threw up or started to drown. Good times.....not :-\. Daniel I wish you well, but remember that unlike us you actually have a choice in your military future. Would I do the army again if I had the choice? No. Do I know anyone who was with me who would do it again if given the choice? No. Did we have some laughs? Sure, met some great people, also met some real &^$#$#. Would I defend my own family to the death in a war situation? Hell yes! Given the choice, would I shoot an Afghan villager for wanting an invading army out of his country (thousands of miles away from your own)? No . Whatever your decision, good luck and sterkte. If you start the course and realise it is not for you, there is absolutely no shame in going back to civvy life. Let us know how you are getting on and keep on rocking ?.

I will. As for the physical training I love pushing myself like that. I ran 4kms the other day threw up but I felt good afterwards.