+1. Wasn't too sure of the clean tones at the beginning (although far better than his Lace Sensor days) - good, but the album version is pure perfection. But from there he nailed the grittier tones.

What really made it for me was the vocal delivery though - he's always had a sweeter voice, which offset Waters' edge nicely, but can be a bit bland on its own. Here he's got some nice raspiness going and his phrasing is different but still very good.

Love it ! What caught my attention is the simplicity of the arrangement......less is always more ?

Classic. . . ?

Vic wrote: ...less is always more ?

If that were truly the case 4:33 is the best music ever written. ?

I agree with Alan regarding the clean tones on the beginning of this recording. It sounds almost as if the guitar has a plastic body.

What an incredible musician he is in regards to the composition of his solos and I'm with Tokai here, I also think that he has managed to unlock an amazing tone from a Strat.

An incredibly inspirational player.

And then as the years went by, "Dogs" became my favourite Floyd song, all 17 minutes of it, incredible lyrics and amazing guitar solos.

Listen to the first 17 minutes of this Youtube audio.

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And then he does this, which makes me want to sell all guitars and just get a lapsteel. ?

Fast forward to 5:20

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Btw, the strap Mr Gilmour is wearing in the Shine On video once belonged to, Mr Hendrix...Gilmours wife bought it for him as a birthday present. 8)

Only discovered Floyd when i went to varsity in the late '90's, damn what a discovery! Got blown away by every aspect of the music. I went out a bought The Wall, i think Comfortably Numb has probably my favourite guitar solo of all time!

Lance, the fact that Gilmour is a genius and the best guitar player in the galaxy, is one thing we both agree on. Shine on and Echoes - Masterpieces.

Joe Moore wrote: My brother used to listen to Cat Stevens , Bob dylan , Crosby Stills Nash & Young .

A friend lent him this LP (1973) and I was hooked on guitar :-[

Alan Ratcliffe wrote:

Vic wrote: ...less is always more ?

If that were truly the case 4:33 is the best music ever written. ?

Indeed , that iconic solo !.....played together with the 2nd guitar and Keyboards , makes it so ! 8)

Exactly....melodic simplicity prevails ...beautiful

Arno West wrote: Lance, the fact that Gilmour is a genius and the best guitar player in the galaxy, is one thing we both agree on. Shine on and Echoes - Masterpieces.

I'm a big fan of Gilmour's playing (not so much of Pink Floyd). He's such an effective player with a great feel for drama and a tension in his solos.

"Less is more" is an adage I certainly subscribe to, in a lot of my playing.

There are times when a little more, rather than less is "required", but . . . . you know when it's needed . . . ?

Bends and vibratos on a single note can hold a lot of emotion :?

[but I'm preaching to the choir here . . . hehe] My thoughts only . . . .

Try this on an acoustic guitar... ???
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i must be honest and admit ...much to most peoples dismay ..... that i never "got" pink floyd or gilmour..... it sounded like film music to me ... ... back in the late 70's /80's (my teens) i had posters of hendrix up on the wall.... i loved zeppelin and jimmy page's tone ...thought zappa was a genius and loved the allman brothers(don't ask me where i got my love for country rock) but floyd or Gilmour for some reason just never struck a chord with me (pun intended) ....

now before i get lynched..... it's not a criticism of Floyd or Gilmour ... they are undisputed legends of rock but just proof that we are not all left in awe of the same artists ...and viva la difference ...and in fact i feel a bit "left out' that i don't like floyd .....like "what am i missing"

Keira WitherKay wrote: i must be honest and admit ...much to most peoples dismay ..... that i never "got" pink floyd or gilmour..... it sounded like film music to me ... ... back in the late 70's /80's (my teens) i had posters of hendrix up on the wall.... i loved zeppelin and jimmy page's tone ...thought zappa was a genius and loved the allman brothers(don't ask me where i got my love for country rock) but floyd or Gilmour for some reason just never struck a chord with me (pun intended) ....

now before i get lynched..... it's not a criticism of Floyd or Gilmour ... they are undisputed legends of rock but just proof that we are not all left in awe of the same artists ...and viva la difference ...and in fact i feel a bit "left out' that i don't like floyd .....like "what am i missing"

You are not alone Keira ?

Keira WitherKay wrote: i must be honest and admit ...much to most peoples dismay ..... that i never "got" pink floyd or gilmour..... it sounded like film music to me ... ... back in the late 70's /80's (my teens) i had posters of hendrix up on the wall.... i loved zeppelin and jimmy page's tone ...thought zappa was a genius and loved the allman brothers(don't ask me where i got my love for country rock) but floyd or Gilmour for some reason just never struck a chord with me (pun intended) ....

now before i get lynched..... it's not a criticism of Floyd or Gilmour ... they are undisputed legends of rock but just proof that we are not all left in awe of the same artists ...and viva la difference ...and in fact i feel a bit "left out' that i don't like floyd .....like "what am i missing"

I think "film music" is one of the reasons I love it...I find the simplicity of it all very relaxing.
It takes 5 minutes of Foo Fighters music to totally exhaust me, but I can do 90 minutes of Floyd without a problem.
It requires time and patience, you can't be in a rush if you plan to become a Floyd fan.

And, perhaps you're missing the lyrics part of it, or perhaps these kind of lyrics don't appeal to you...do you take the time to get into the lyrics?

Some people prefer Bruce Willis movies to Woody Allen movies. ?

It takes about 15 seconds of Pink Floyd to make me unbelievably depressed & sad.
And has always had this effect.
So I avoid it.
Shows how powerful music is.

You can get lyrically darker than Pink Floyd. Their reputation for being a soundtrack for a wrist slitting is overdone. And anyway, I think that music can be sad and/or dark and simultaneously be beautiful.

You know the thing about Floyd is that they do have something in their compositions (OK... not so much once "Pink Floyd" really became David Gilmour and a bunch of session players) that was very distinct and gave them a unique signature. What I propose we call the Pink Floyd Moment (tm) or PFM for short. There's a couple of them on Dark Side, notably on the choruses of "Us and Them" and "Brain Damage".

But YMMV. I find it hard sometimes to have to put up with the sound effects and noodling and Waters and his tortured soul whilst waiting for the next PFM or Gilmour solo.

Gilmour was always the main interest for me, ever since I first heard Dark Side. There's such great tension and drama in his playing. His solos work so well, he takes very few prisoners.