60th ann strat, natural finish in great nick - r30k too much?

domhatch

60th anniversary corona strat, natural (ash?) finish, looked in beautiful condition, i'm guessing someone needed the cash and converted it. i wondered into cash converters in fourways crossing the other day and saw this thing. for me, 30 clicks sounds a little excessive for what is essentially a strat with a little extra attention paid to it. or am i being short-sighted? should i have whipped out the card, picked it up and sold it on for a small profit?

thoughts?
dh

Norman86

haha, dom, this one has been discussed to death already!
where were you?
there are at least 2 threads for this strat!
cant quite remember where, but search cash converters strat, im sure you'll find it ?

IceCreamMan

domhatch wrote: 60th anniversary corona strat, natural (ash?) finish, looked in beautiful condition, i'm guessing someone needed the cash and converted it. i wondered into cash converters in fourways crossing the other day and saw this thing. for me, 30 clicks sounds a little excessive for what is essentially a strat with a little extra attention paid to it. or am i being short-sighted? should i have whipped out the card, picked it up and sold it on for a small profit?

thoughts?
dh

this very same guitar has been discussed here previously , u did well by not whipping out the credit card

there are 60th anniversaries and there are 60th anniverasires, if that makes sense..... one has to be seriously clued up on strats BEFORE paying 30k for any strat i reckon

domhatch

well, i shall most definitely look it up. but good lord, if i had 30k to spend on a guitar, it wouldn't be on this one anyway.

thanks lads!
dh

RJN

30K is alot of money. :-\

domhatch

i did me a little research. 30k just felt like a lot, coz i know what you can get for that amount. the rsp for those things looks to have been around $1600 which, at the current exchange rate, is around 14k. jack that up by a generous 80% or so, assuming you buy from the states direct, and you come out at around 26k. new. (i'm being generous with shipping and taxes and duties and wotnot.) whack off about 40% (again, being generous, but in the opposite direction) because it's used/previously enjoyed/pre-loved/whatever, and you end up at a little under 16k - which i still wouldn't pay.

in other words, just over half the current asking price. i don't think they make enough of these things for them to become collectable?

my curiosity called them up earlier. they're "highly negotiable" on the price. one wonders why.
dh

chris77

Hey Dom. Wow. It's been there for a couuple of months now and still the asking price is the same. Unbelievable....
As mentioned in the other thread, that isn't even a 60th ann strat - merely one made in 2006. Because of the year it has a 60th ann sticker on the back of the headstock, same as all the other Fenders from that year. So nothing special about it at all.
Here's some info on the actual 60th ann models and how to tell them apart from the normal production models.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/resources/article/Fender-60th-Anniversary-Stratocaster/m712108
$1600 you mention would have been a fair price for one of the commemorative models. A stock American series strat would have been closer to $1000 and a deluxe maybe a hundred more - which makes the price even more ridiculous. Instead of twice it's realistic value, they are asking about three times what is worth. Or rather would have been worth if it wasn't moddded and this was a sellers market. Fair price would probably be about R10 000.00 sticker and R8 000.00 actual.
You know, somebody should really kick them in the fork for trying to sell that guitar for so much.

Wizard

Which just proves that an item's value is what someone is willing to pay for it; not the number on the sticker.

wirt

chris77 wrote: Fair price would probably be about R10 000.00 sticker and R8 000.00 actual.

This is probably not the appropriate thread for this, but can someone please explain to me why every music shop or place where guitars are sold have a sticker price and a "discount" a.k.a. "actual" price? I find this baffling, to say the least. Since it's such a widely known fact, why don't they just make the price on the tag the "real" price?

Norman86

wirt, dont get us started.. >☹
thats also been discussed to death. :'(
its the most irritating thing in the world!!!

domhatch

chris77 wrote: Hey Dom. Wow. It's been there for a couuple of months now and still the asking price is the same. Unbelievable....
As mentioned in the other thread, that isn't even a 60th ann strat - merely one made in 2006. Because of the year it has a 60th ann sticker on the back of the headstock, same as all the other Fenders from that year. So nothing special about it at all.
Here's some info on the actual 60th ann models and how to tell them apart from the normal production models.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/resources/article/Fender-60th-Anniversary-Stratocaster/m712108
$1600 you mention would have been a fair price for one of the commemorative models. A stock American series strat would have been closer to $1000 and a deluxe maybe a hundred more - which makes the price even more ridiculous. Instead of twice it's realistic value, they are asking about three times what is worth. Or rather would have been worth if it wasn't moddded and this was a sellers market. Fair price would probably be about R10 000.00 sticker and R8 000.00 actual.
You know, somebody should really kick them in the fork for trying to sell that guitar for so much.

hi chris. yeah, the guy said they'd had it for about 3 months. i don't recall seeing the 60-year inlay on the headstock, which is what got me wondering about it. i remember selling my highway 1 a while ago for a little over 6k. at the time, i thought it was a fair price, and so did the forumite who bought it (otherwise he wouldn't have bought it, i guess). but this is just ridiculous.

it has been said that a fair price is what the seller is willing to part with the item for, and the purchaser is willing to pay. my guess is that those guys are going to sit with that strat for a long, long time. or they're going to bamboozle someone out of some hard-earned cash. or, someone has already bamboozled them out of their cash, and now they're trying to do the same.

either way, i'm glad my nose got my jewish genes - i can smell a bargain, and thankfully i can sniff out an over-stuffed price tag just as easily.
dh

wirt

Norman86 wrote: wirt, dont get us started.. >☹
thats also been discussed to death. :'(
its the most irritating thing in the world!!!

Nevermind then ?
I did some googlin' (I really should learn to do that before asking questions) and found a certain 11 page thread dealing with the topic. You weren't kidding ?

Sean

wirt wrote:
Norman86 wrote: wirt, dont get us started.. >☹
thats also been discussed to death. :'(
its the most irritating thing in the world!!!
Nevermind then ?
I did some googlin' (I really should learn to do that before asking questions) and found a certain 11 page thread dealing with the topic. You weren't kidding ?

Haha, yeah, good times ?

PaulJ

Here is the original thread:

http://www.guitarforum.co.za/guitar-gear/cash-converters-strat-ridiculous-price!/

and here is the thread I started when I saw it, someone's gonna get ripped off!

http://www.guitarforum.co.za/your-gear/fender-strat-corona-californian-60th-anniversary-at-cash-converters/

Sebber

Yeah a drummer mate of mine saw this at Cash Converters 4ways and he Whatsapped me with a photo because he knows I'm a Strat fanatic. It looked to me to be a 2006 Strat Deluxe and there is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL IT'S WORTH R28k!!!

So my advice on this one is buyer beware. I agree with chris77, R10k is a fair price given that it's 2nd hand and the fact that SA prices are over-inflated, but I suspect the purchasing manager at Cash Converters got sold down the river on the whole 60th anniversary schtick and bought it thinking it was something special.

Norman86

They shaft enough people.. so hopefully whoever sold them the guitar got a good price!

domhatch

Norman86 wrote: They shaft enough people.. so hopefully whoever sold them the guitar got a good price!

he he. yeah. i'm feeling like going in there and clearing a few things up... even if this were a 60th, it wouldn't be worth even half the asking price in the current environment. man, this should be fun. if i get there, i'll report back.

Norman86

haha, good luck dom!
Will be interesting to hear what they say!

aubs1

domhatch wrote: he he. yeah. i'm feeling like going in there and clearing a few things up... even if this were a 60th, it wouldn't be worth even half the asking price in the current environment. man, this should be fun. if i get there, i'll report back.

Hey Dom, why do I have a feeling that once you're done "clearing a few things up", you're gonna be walking out there with a "60th Anni. Strat? ?

............ obviously at some amazing price!

domhatch

Aubs1 wrote: Hey Dom, why do I have a feeling that once you're done "clearing a few things up", you're gonna be walking out there with a "60th Anni. Strat? ?

............ obviously at some amazing price!

ha! now aubs, if that were a prs, or a les paul, or even if it were a strat i could pick up and sell on to make a quick buck, we'd be talking. but i fear these guys were taken for a ride, and won't be budging much on their sky-high price. still, worth going in for the giggle, mebbe. if i'm in the area, you know...
dh