I am starting to wonder if our kind even has the makings for normal slog. Maybe we were just made for composition and performance and sorry about the plurals that implicate all readers but saying we is less embarrassing than saying I ?
9 to 5?
I'm with you man! 9 to 5 is evil and doesn't work for me. Hence why I'm an entrepreneur ?
07:30 to 16:30 is even worse, but at least my enviroment is a bit different. Broadcasting is a bit more interesting than a financial institution. Lots of interesting people and horrible people. What's worse than 9 to 5 is the whole corporate thing, I take my hats off to the guys that do there own thing and make it.
I gave up the 9 to 5 years ago - along with smoking, eating and paying the rent on time.
Sad but true!Renesongs wrote: I gave up the 9 to 5 years ago - along with smoking, eating and paying the rent on time.
Does 8 to 4:30 still count?
I actually enjoy my work(most times)....I sit in front of my PC all day surfing the net ....on average I only "work" 1 day a week but then I really WORK...noooo GFSA nooooo CHAT NOOOO watching dvd's...Just me and stinky harbour ships and pumps
Even tho I work for a company,I'am pretty much left to my own devices,as long as deadlines are met and I make budget they leave me alone ?
I actually enjoy my work(most times)....I sit in front of my PC all day surfing the net ....on average I only "work" 1 day a week but then I really WORK...noooo GFSA nooooo CHAT NOOOO watching dvd's...Just me and stinky harbour ships and pumps

Even tho I work for a company,I'am pretty much left to my own devices,as long as deadlines are met and I make budget they leave me alone ?
But why is it that industry largely does not appreciate good musicians save the obvious supply and demand answer?
Simple...our art doesn't pay the bills regularly...If I could be a musician and it paid my bills and fed my kid and I could live the way I do now..I would do it!
The music industry is very difficult to break into and even once your'e in its difficult to stay there!
So to answer your question....NO... for us mere mortals being a professional muso 9 to 5 will just never happen unless you "stop paying the rent and eating"....We must ma settle for writing and recording in our home studios and enjoying our artform...
*hands ConradP a SAMA*
There you go buddy ?
The music industry is very difficult to break into and even once your'e in its difficult to stay there!
So to answer your question....NO... for us mere mortals being a professional muso 9 to 5 will just never happen unless you "stop paying the rent and eating"....We must ma settle for writing and recording in our home studios and enjoying our artform...
*hands ConradP a SAMA*
There you go buddy ?
I see things changing in the future, though. With the internet playing the massive role it's playing (and still plenty of room to grow!), we'll soon see a LOT more musos making money and doing it by themselves or with the help of sites selling tracks and so on.
With the internet plus a decent PC, you can now:
- Record a decent-sounding CD
- Sell MP3 tracks online
- Market yourself to 100s of 1000s of people across Facebook, MySpace, last.fm and more
- Reach niches of people across continents who, otherwise, would have been too far away to even know about you
Suddenly, even music that's particularly commercially-unviable has a chance of finding a following that can sustain the musos behind the music. We're not there yet but we will be.
I'm not saying it's easy. In fact, I'd say it's blimming hard but the main costs are time and hard work. So provided your music has a market that can sustain you and you're prepared to LEARN a lot, you can make it and do it entirely without a label.
With the internet plus a decent PC, you can now:
- Record a decent-sounding CD
- Sell MP3 tracks online
- Market yourself to 100s of 1000s of people across Facebook, MySpace, last.fm and more
- Reach niches of people across continents who, otherwise, would have been too far away to even know about you
Suddenly, even music that's particularly commercially-unviable has a chance of finding a following that can sustain the musos behind the music. We're not there yet but we will be.
I'm not saying it's easy. In fact, I'd say it's blimming hard but the main costs are time and hard work. So provided your music has a market that can sustain you and you're prepared to LEARN a lot, you can make it and do it entirely without a label.
Yes technology is definitely taking power away from the suits. In meeting with record execs etc, it is my experience that they don't always have a handle on what the public wants anyway.
ConradP wrote: they don't always have a handle on what the public wants anyway.
I couldnt agree with you more Conrad!!! +1
One of our members, Joe Ellis, has just released his secong album over the internet from a small studio in Ladismith.
His music rocks and Ive seen his band live 3 times...We WILL start seeing more and more of this with the big record companies taking a back seat! ?
Cool. Can you post a link to his site? I love it when SA musos do this.Lawrence wrote:ConradP wrote: they don't always have a handle on what the public wants anyway.
I couldnt agree with you more Conrad!!! +1
One of our members, Joe Ellis, has just released his secong album over the internet from a small studio in Ladismith.
His music rocks and Ive seen his band live 3 times...We WILL start seeing more and more of this with the big record companies taking a back seat! ?
That is good Norio.Norio wrote: I'm with you man! 9 to 5 is evil and doesn't work for me. Hence why I'm an entrepreneur ?
work pays for my GAS and keeps the household running....... my music is a labour of love ... if i make a few bucks from it great , if not the music still goes on
Yes it is the same for me.Tailon wrote: work pays for my GAS and keeps the household running....... my music is a labour of love ... if i make a few bucks from it great , if not the music still goes on
@ConradP...I posted a link under Players.
Thanks dude.Lawrence wrote: @ConradP...I posted a link under Players.
I will make it my personal mission to help you, our talented members, make some money online. Even if it's only $100 a month or something and even if it's only 5 dedicated members, I'll find a way to get you guys out there!
Believe me, all it takes is the first $100 and then you're hooked for life ?
Believe me, all it takes is the first $100 and then you're hooked for life ?
I'm all for that Norio. I'm VERY detirmined and dedicated.Norio wrote: I will make it my personal mission to help you, our talented members, make some money online. Even if it's only $100 a month or something and even if it's only 5 dedicated members, I'll find a way to get you guys out there!
Believe me, all it takes is the first $100 and then you're hooked for life ?
Conrad
I hear you there but don't agree wholeheartedly.Norio wrote: I see things changing in the future, though. With the internet playing the massive role it's playing (and still plenty of room to grow!), we'll soon see a LOT more musos making money and doing it by themselves or with the help of sites selling tracks and so on.
With the internet plus a decent PC, you can now:
- Record a decent-sounding CD
- Sell MP3 tracks online
- Market yourself to 100s of 1000s of people across Facebook, MySpace, last.fm and more
- Reach niches of people across continents who, otherwise, would have been too far away to even know about you
Suddenly, even music that's particularly commercially-unviable has a chance of finding a following that can sustain the musos behind the music. We're not there yet but we will be.
I'm not saying it's easy. In fact, I'd say it's blimming hard but the main costs are time and hard work. So provided your music has a market that can sustain you and you're prepared to LEARN a lot, you can make it and do it entirely without a label.
Modern technology is making it easier for just about anyone and everyone with a little PC savvy to make music, even without any knowledge of an instrument and/or music theory. Granted there are those that have done that in the past on the odd occasion, but now it's the playground of kiddies and popstars...
Imagine a world full of Milley Cyrus' and Tatu's... each one trying to punt their 'own' music. Painful...
Then there's the question of bootleg samples and copyrights... ala Hip Hop artists of today. My best being the hardcore rapper who sampled a piece from a well documented homosexual french duo... bet his homies love that.
in short it makes it more painful as you have to sift through all the crap before finding the diamond... or even the dull gem.