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I spoke to Graeme on the phone earlier and he said sometimes he does group buys on here. So anyone else looking to buy guitar speakers?

I've got a budget of R300 for a 12" 8 ohm 60+ watt speaker. It's for a Roland Jazz Chorus JC80 - any suggestions? Any nice speaker considered, I'm not hugely fussy. FWIW, I play a Lace Gold-equipped Strat with a flat mids-modded Big Muff. I don't like huge scooped tones, I'm more of a midrange guy. (To me, the ideal distorted guitar is reasonably strong around 250Hz and 1kHz, and rolls off after 6kHz.)
    I've seen prices around the $40 mark for speakers. 40 * 7 = R280. Unless shipping costs are completely ridiculous for some reason I don't know of yet, I don't think I'm being unreasonable in thinking I can get a half-decent speaker for R300.
      Shipping costs are ridiculous bud. On one 12", I have been quoted $90.
        Nick's right - R300 won't get you anywhere. Decent speakers will cost you at least R1500.

        Speakers are real expensive to ship too (I spent R2K in shipping alone for a pair of 12" Webers a year ago), so usually you will source locally if it's available here (Take 2 lists a decent range via their "More USA" store).
        henrebotha wrote: To me, the ideal distorted guitar is reasonably strong around 250Hz and 1kHz, and rolls off after 6kHz.
        12" guitar speakers generally are fairly flat from about 125Hz to 1kHz, have a bit of a presence peak around 2-3 kHz and roll off at about 5kHz. That's the nature of the beast.

        What's wrong with the stock speakers? The JC's Roland speakers are pretty well matched to the amp - flatter than most and very punchy/percussive. If you don't like the sound of the stock speaker, you probably don't actually like the amp itself either. The only way to really improve on the stock speaker is with some of the big, heavy EVM12Ls or JBL D120Fs, which are hard to get, expensive and weigh a ton. I've heard from others that the Eminence Commonwealth 12 is a good replacement as well as the Weber EV and JBL clones, but have never heard them.
        FWIW, I play a Lace Gold-equipped Strat with a flat mids-modded Big Muff.
        Adrian Belew fan by any chance? a Muff into a Roland is awesome, but very harsh and tiring on the ears.
          Sad face. I guess I'll just save up what I can then, and do my level best to get someone to smuggle it in for me ?

          I'm not opposed to the stock speaker at all. But if I'm going to replace it, saying I ABSOLUTELY MUST GET THE SAME SPEAKER AT ALL COSTS is just limiting my options. Like I said, I'll be happy with almost any good speaker. No sense in pretending I particularly like one speaker over another when I don't really know the difference, or have the luxury of trying out many different ones.

          I don't find the Muff tiring on the JC. I use the darker tone settings, a la Queens of the Stone Age. And I rarely turn up the treble, only doing so as much as I need to cut through a dense band (our music borrows a lot from garage rock and post-hardcore, so it's quite thick and busy).
            Yes, it gave in. No surprise to me, it's probably older than I am.
              Speak to JP le roux (amp repair guru, and maker)
              I dont have his number anymore but I know he is around still....

              He stocks a bucnh of speakers for cheap and could hook you up pretty cheap I think...
              Not R300 cheap..... but maybe take down those shipping costs.
                Get the speaker repaired... :-\


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                  Crap, I really should check out the classifieds on here...

                  Anyway. How about R1k, could that be enough for something decent? (Making some cash from mixing, seems only right that it should go straight into music gear. ?)
                    A lot of people have been suggesting 50w speakers. My amp puts out 60w. Is it safe to use a 50w speaker? I rarely turn the amp up past ~6 when I'm gigging, less at practice obviously. If I recall correctly, the stock speaker is rated at 65w.

                    Btw, thanks for all the help so far you guys ?
                      Jose at Exclusive Enterprises will refurbish your old speaker to spec for a few hundred bucks. I've used his services before and still have some speakers of his in my collection. 8)

                        Okay, I found that NAMM 07 Eminence speaker shootout, very useful in addition to the Eminence site. There's a couple speakers I'm interested in.

                        Questions for you lot:
                        - Some of you have recommended 50w speakers. My amp puts out 60w. Is that okay, or am I seriously risking the speaker's life?
                        - My blown speaker has been repaired once before. I believe it's the voice coil that died then, and now as well. Can this be repaired? Is it worth it, or will it just die again a year from now?
                        - How much would such a repair job cost?

                        Thanks guys...
                          henrebotha wrote: - Some of you have recommended 50w speakers. My amp puts out 60w. Is that okay, or am I seriously risking the speaker's life?
                          Well if you've blown the 60W voice coil twice, I'd say 50W would be far too low. Play it safe and look at +/- 100W speakers.
                          Can this be repaired? Is it worth it, or will it just die again a year from now?
                          If the cone kit is available, it's repairable. You can also usually ask the person repairing it to recone with a compatible 100W voice coil. In fact, possibly the last repair was done with a more common 50W coil and that's why it only lasted a year.
                          - How much would such a repair job cost?
                          You'd have to ask the repairer that.
                            i've had goooood experiences with Jensen!

                            And they were cheap to boot. R1600 for both ?

                              Alan, I probably don't have to explain to you that I'm bitten by the DIY bug. ? So that sways me in the direction of replacing rather than repairing. But if you guys can point me at a CT-based repair guy with a good rep then I'll definitely consider that, especially if it works out to half the price or less.
                                Jose has been in this business for many years and has proven reliability. I'm really surprised that I'm the only one here on GFSA to know him.
                                Give him a call or visit his workshop in Obs. He really knows what he's talking about and can maybe even re-build your old speaker with a stronger voice coil. :-\
                                DaFiz wrote: Get the speaker repaired... :-\


                                Exclusive Enterprises

                                Phone: (021) 448 6602
                                Fax: (021) 447 7572

                                Address:

                                7 Franklin Street Observatory Cape Town 7925 South Africa