Who says you can't play killer blues on a SG

Reinhard

Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush.
Apparently he playes into a solid state amp. The licks and the tone just kill me.

Squonk

Reinhard wrote: Frank Marino and Rahogany Rush.
Apparently he playes into a solid state amp. The licks and the tone just kill me.

Good Stuff Reinhard, I haven't heard Frank for Years, it's actually Mahogany Rush

Reinhard

Squonk wrote:
Reinhard wrote: Frank Marino and Rahogany Rush.
Apparently he playes into a solid state amp. The licks and the tone just kill me.

Good Stuff Reinhard, I haven't heard Frank for Years, it's actually Mahogany Rush

My brain only runs on 30% this time of the morning lol.

I was going make a joke about the tone and playing giving me mahogany ?

Keira-WitherKay

i agree killer tone....... phew very inspiring .

i love the tone of an SG but that twin sharp horn look is just almost too much for me........ but the sound is awesome...fat and warm.... i wonder how they would stand up to playing jazz........... i have found a les paul studio using only the neck pickup kills for fat blues and jazz tone........ anyway the tone that appeals to me anyway ...... mmmmmm i have never tried an SG for jazz yet

Reinhard

Keira WitherKay wrote: i agree killer tone....... phew very inspiring .

i love the tone of an SG but that twin sharp horn look is just almost too much for me........ but the sound is awesome...fat and warm.... i wonder how they would stand up to playing jazz........... i have found a les paul studio using only the neck pickup kills for fat blues and jazz tone........ anyway the tone that appeals to me anyway ...... mmmmmm i have never tried an SG for jazz yet

I think an SG with P90's would be really nice for jazz. The nice thin and light body with great fret access makes for a nice efficient instrument.

Reinhard

Sounds kinda jazzy to my untrained ears

singemonkey

Well, of course there's Derek Trucks who plays a lot of blues. Robbie Krieger's Roadhouse Blues is a classic. And Angus Young is essentially a great blues guitarist working in a hard rock medium. It always surprises me, every time, how good he is playing blues.

An almost identical scenario, although they have thicker bodies, is the Flying V for blues - most notably Albert King. I absolutely love Albert King, and if people think a V's just for metal, they haven't heard him play.

Warren

singemonkey wrote: An almost identical scenario, although they have thicker bodies, is the Flying V for blues - most notably Albert King. I absolutely love Albert King, and if people think a V's just for metal, they haven't heard him play.

Little Jimmy King also played great blues on a Flying V ?

ezietsman

I don't understand this thing of different electric guitars for different purposes. IF we take ANY solid body electric guitar, we can play any genre normally played with a solid body guitar. The only major difference between the different 'styles' of guitar is maybe the pickups. 'Metal' guitars will have strong pickups. There's no reason you can't play blues or jazz on EMGs. The shape however has nothing to do with it. IMO of course.

Reinhard

I believe Lonnie Mack also did blues on a V.

Always loved Angus's bluesy playing on The Jack

singemonkey

ezietsman wrote: I don't understand this thing of different electric guitars for different purposes. IF we take ANY solid body electric guitar, we can play any genre normally played with a solid body guitar. The only major difference between the different 'styles' of guitar is maybe the pickups. 'Metal' guitars will have strong pickups. There's no reason you can't play blues or jazz on EMGs. The shape however has nothing to do with it. IMO of course.

Sshhh! That's a secret man! ?

Yeah. Mostly certain guitars are just slightly more suitable for certain styles. Super-strats are designed so you can play-em as fast as possible, and have hard core vibrato bridges that - IMO - sacrifice a little of the tonality of other kinds of vibrato units for their enormous power and flexibility.

A Les Paul, on the other hand, is not the most ergonomic guitar, but has a woody, yet clear tone that's nicely expressive for styles like blues. But these are just tiny differences that we inflate from long association. Just listen to Zakk Wylde or Randy Rhoads tear up a Les Paul. And likewise, every now and again you'll hear someone play some heart-breaking blues on a Jackson that could take your eye out.

Jack-Flash-Jr

ezietsman wrote: I don't understand this thing of different electric guitars for different purposes. IF we take ANY solid body electric guitar, we can play any genre normally played with a solid body guitar. The only major difference between the different 'styles' of guitar is maybe the pickups. 'Metal' guitars will have strong pickups. There's no reason you can't play blues or jazz on EMGs. The shape however has nothing to do with it. IMO of course.

+10000

Warren

ezietsman wrote: I don't understand this thing of different electric guitars for different purposes. IF we take ANY solid body electric guitar, we can play any genre normally played with a solid body guitar. The only major difference between the different 'styles' of guitar is maybe the pickups. 'Metal' guitars will have strong pickups. There's no reason you can't play blues or jazz on EMGs. The shape however has nothing to do with it. IMO of course.

+1 dude.

I'm also not really sold on this whole "tone" story. Sure, I really like the sound that some guitarists get on certain recordings, but I don't buy the whole "must have guitar W and amp X to achieve tone Y so that I can sound like player Z." I think you can get some great sounding tones on pretty reasonably priced kit. Maybe I only think this way because I don't have the cash to toss at it, but I think that 90% of the tone comes from the player.

Jack-Flash-Jr

Here we go...

EDIT: I know it's not an SG but just adding to the gear argument...

singemonkey

Warren wrote: I think that 90% of the tone comes from the player.

Ah, but it's that 10% that we so love yakking about ?

Reinhard

Everyone raised good points, but it's nice to see a pointy red guitar in a world dominated by strats and archtops. Kinda like blues on a flying V, not something you see everyday.

Keira-WitherKay

re the right guitar for the job........... i must say i do agree with the sentiment above that one can play anything on any electric guitar

but i have for a while been looking for an electric for jazz .to get that "soupy" sound ..... i have tried most brands . single coils just don't cut it for the sound i want. i mentioned above the closest on a solid body was a les paul studio only on neck pickup with tone rolled off ......i even bought a yamaha baritone guitar which the longer scale gave it a darker sound with jazz flatwound strings which i thought might work well........

but as you guys prob read a few months ago i found a 1968 aria ES 175 copy .and wow instant jazz tone...... no EQ neccesary so yeah the other guitars would have worked, in that i could have played the gig with them.. BUT the tone i was seeking was intrinsically a Gibson ES175 tone thats fat and dark and the only time i got that tone (which is on a million records) was when i got the ES175 copy .... and now i'm gigging with that guitar fulltime for my jazz repetoire ..... and i get the prescribed jazz tone........

so much as i have experienced it is a case of "horses for courses" that sure one can use a strat to play jazz, but use a ES175 and wow instant dated jazz sound....... i guess same is when you wanna shred you plug in your steve vai signiture JEM .

BUT thats where us muso's have the choice of what we play .some break the mould and some want the prescribed tone......so personal choice at the end of the day

but for me i only found that tone i was seeking when i got a jazz guitar

Bob-Dubery

Reinhard wrote: Everyone raised good points, but it's nice to see a pointy red guitar in a world dominated by strats and archtops. Kinda like blues on a flying V, not something you see everyday.

Albert King played a flying V!

It's a good question though. Who says you can't play blues on an SG? Who is that person? There is no "blues" guitar. The blues is about the notes you play and the feeling you play them with - not the axe you use. Muddy Waters used Telecasters extensively. Albert Collins also uses a Tele.

ezietsman

The way I see it, to play authentic sounding blues, you need a steel string guitar. Any steel string guitar. Thats it.

singemonkey

ezietsman wrote: The way I see it, to play authentic sounding blues, you need a steel string guitar. Any steel string guitar. Thats it.

Very true.