Renesongs
This Weeks challenge from MikeM is
A Fresh Take on I, V, vi, IV
Another vague challenge this week. The idea is to go outside your comfort zone, play something beyond your usual boundries as creatively as possible. Picked a very commonly used progression that can hopefully be used for any style you'd like to delve into.
Ok for those who don't understand Nashville numbers if I is C then V = G, vi = Am and IV = F so I,V,vi, IV is a C G Am F progression as in "Let it Be" or "Streets of London" or "Don't Think Twice That's All-right" and many many more.
MikeM
This is what actually made me think of it ?
guitarboy2828
Wait, you want us to sing?? :O haha..
Cool compo, will be interesting to see what people come up with.. It really is SOOO open!
MikeM
Singing not compulsory ?
I'm really hoping that we can all dig into this and broaden our views a touch ?
evolucian
u want that order though?
Bob-Dubery
evolucian wrote:
u want that order though?
Good question
MikeM
I think do it at your discretion guys. Like I said - as long as it's out of the norm, go for it!!!
DonovanB
Out of the norm? So if we avoid them altogether then?
chris77
I have a tune in my head that might work. Based around Em-C-D-G. Will try and make time for it this week.
MikeM
Don, there is a theme here. But if part of your idea involves varying from the one constraint that I've given, there must be a reason for it - a good one preferably.
DonovanB
lol, Mine's done already. Just going to master it and mull it over for a few days now.
dee
Why is vi not written in capitals? does it denote minor?
Warren
dee wrote:
Why is vi not written in capitals? does it denote minor?
That's right.
When you harmonise the C major scale (make chords out of it) you would write out the progression like this:
C - I
D - ii
E - iii
F - IV
G - V
A - vi
B - vii
C - VIII
The capital letters are major or dominant chords, the small letters are minor or diminished chords. Sure the other dudes will expand.
Bob-Dubery
Are we talking the "classic" rock 'n roll progression here, or can I do shameful skollie things like play in a minor key?
EG do I have to play in C and use C, F, G and Am, or can I be devious and declare my key to be Am and use Am, Dm, Em and F instead? Come to think of it, can I change key for, say, the bridge or must I confine myself to a single major key?
I suspect that the answer is major key, one of, and I have no problem with that, but I thought it worth seeking clarification.
MikeM
Like I said, use your own discretion guys - Bob I think use both, sounds like a cool idea ?
Ray
Well, how's the voting going to happen then? If there are deviations from the straight no woman no cry sequence and sound and nobody understands what all this creativity is all about, a lot of people are going to think that the submission is not within the specs. Becasue in minor it could sound plenty different ne? Of praat ek kak? So I'm thinking that it's going to have to be accompanied by a bit of a dissertation on key, sequence and all sorts of other things maybe.
Warren
I might not enter this one due to time constraints, but my personal thoughts:
Stick to the progression. You could always do chord substitutions that are more "within the rules"? Like chuck in a lekker C9 instead of a C7 etc.
You can always play with how you articulate the progression too. Fingerpicked, a cool fast and powerful riff etc.
I think if you play around with the progression too much the rules become a bit less useful, and the entries a bit too open-ended.
MikeM
Ok.
The progression MUST be used.
The style must be different to your norm.
You can vary it, but the original progression must be used (Like bob said changing the bridge to minor key).
Riaan
OK...let's see if I got it... :-[
I understand the bit where a C major scale is used and the I, V, vi and IV are used to get the chords. So one can take any scale, for instance Bb major, and the chords for this particular sequence will be Bb maj, F maj, G minor and D# maj? That's if I played the Bb major scale correctly on my keyboard when figuring out the scale by ear, that is...
And so any major, minor or whatever scale can be used and it will work?
MikeM
I'm pretty sure that's correct. I'm not sure about any scale working over it though.
