Did you watch the Grammys tonight?

Floydoid · 2010-02-02T01:02:40+00:00

What a sorry state of musical affairs in the world -rap rap rap = cr*p cr*p cr*p At least Slash had a tiny little spot and Green Day almost played - can anyone actually remember any of the other dregs? ??? The country bands were probably the best, especially those okes with the funny beanies and beards who looked like bergies. ?

singemonkey

I didn't watch, but it's such a fun thread, I wanted in ?

Bob, loved the "defence of English language" - FAIL post. +1

Rap: As far as I can see it's been going through the equivalent phase of rock doing songs about rock. When it's all about how ready to party you are and how much stuff you have, and all that, it's not going to expand its audience.

Beyonce: She's a really great singer. She has a unique and recognisable voice. Very original. People will recognise that in the future. But, of course she is given crappy pop songs. I thought Whitney Houston was rubbish until I saw her do a Wycleff Jean song and realised what the fuss was all about.

Slash: Rock and roll's living cartoon ?

NorioDS

Rap with a message is cool, I reckon. Some of Eminem's earlier stuff, where he's basically venting about his up-bringing, the crap in the music industry and so on - that stuff is cool. But, ja, when it's all about how gangsta you are and "bringin' it" at the party? Then I just reckon people got bored and had to write *something* so they wrote that.

Some rap is like poetry. It really is beautiful. But ja I think that's for more the exception rather than the rule.

Renesongs

This gives me a great idea for a future weekly challenge, lets all write a rap song with brilliant guitar work the rule the guitars must sing, well er I mean RAP themselves and have written the lyrics themselves ?

Bob-Dubery

singemonkey wrote Beyonce: She's a really great singer. She has a unique and recognisable voice. Very original. People will recognise that in the future. But, of course she is given crappy pop songs. I thought Whitney Houston was rubbish until I saw her do a Wycleff Jean song and realised what the fuss was all about.

Beyonce's been getting better material wise and certainly has started to do songs with a bit more substance EG "Put A Ring On It".

Whitney Houston was a superb singer (may still be if the crack hasn't ruined her voice) with great range, pitch and control, but, I thought, a poor choice in songs (or poor songs chosen for her). But then she has Cissy Houston and Dionne Warwick in her near ancestry - them's some genes. If only there had been a Bacharach and David around to forge a partnership with her.

DonovanB

I take issue with irresponsible music. Like Akon and "smack that" and this new "Birthday sex" song. I find them to be promoting promiscuity, and while I don't, and shouldn't, want to preach....

5fm had a campaign to promote abstinence as a solution to AIDS, then immediately after played Smack that.... talk about differing messages. Then they go on to say how awesome the song is, and not the campaign.

I don't think the Grammy's is a bad idea. What is wrong with rewarding people for their work? In that case we should do away with the weekly competition... Which I use to measure my progress and what I create. I load a song up here for people to listen to and give an opinion on or a ~~pat on the back~~ vote.

chris77

Ja well, the grammies are the grammies. I never really cared for award shows. The cherry on the cake was when Russel Crowe won an Oscar for Gladiator (I mean seriously. Why not just give it to Steven Segal if you want to reward that type of acting....) and then did NOT win an oscar for A Beautiful Mind. These things are useless if you aren't an Average American. Mind you, a televised show of the Darwin Awards would be, though impossible, damn good television! ?

Renesongs

I don't think the Grammy's is a bad idea. What is wrong with rewarding people for their work? In that case we should do away with the weekly competition... Which I use to measure my progress and what I create. I load a song up here for people to listen to and give an opinion on or a pat on the back vote.

The Grammies are not artist or musicians complementing each other it is about music moguls gloating over who won the game of monopoly with the artist serving as their charms or avatars. BTW I have the same opinion on the Academy awards another thing I don't pay any heed to [/boring conspiracy theory]

dan77

Norio wrote Your earlier post *was* racist, even if *you* are not. Please don't do that again.

Please respect the #1 rule of GFSA: Be nice.

Yip Mr Norio sir! - You're right! Now that I've read my own posts I must confess it does sound a bit racist, however it was not my intention to be. :-[

I guess I'm just pi**ed off that there were few inspiring (at least to me) performances this year and all I had to sit and watch was boring rap that went on and on! :'(

I wish we could see the American Country Awards like we used to. Now THERE were great bands and musicians to watch, and they played all these incredible guitars. ?

dan77

Now that I'm thinking about it - since this is a guitar forum I wonder whether anyone has ever heard of a good rapper guitarist ?????????

MIKA-the-better-one

I agree that rap is Stail as anything, but as said before very cleverly its nothing rock doesnt go through...... Early NWA was amazing, Dizzie Rascal, Dead Prez, Slick Rick, Tomahawk, all good rap music........ Rage against the machine is a prime example of rap and rock, being good..... If you ever watch jools holland, sometimes he will get rap acts on, who bring live bands withthem..... and they usually are drop dead amazing......... they just groove
Oh and NERD what a good rap band.....

chris77

Nooit ou, I cant stand rap rock! Its like trying to make an asparagus and banana sandwich...

Bob-Dubery

chris77 wrote Nooit ou, I cant stand rap rock! Its like trying to make an asparagus and banana sandwich...

That kind of irrational aversion is easily cured by a suitably large spliff.

You will even find yourself appreciating modern jazz.

Ray

dan77 wrote Now that I'm thinking about it - since this is a guitar forum I wonder whether anyone has ever heard of a good rapper guitarist ?????????

Not really no. But rap isnt that original really, just overworks a pretty neat idea actually. J Geils band did a bit of the old talk along.

Floydoid

Ray wrote
dan77 wrote Now that I'm thinking about it - since this is a guitar forum I wonder whether anyone has ever heard of a good rapper guitarist ?????????

Not really no. But rap isnt that original really, just overworks a pretty neat idea actually. J Geils band did a bit of the old talk along.

Centerfold?

Ray

Maybe bit cant really remember. I've only got blow your face out on cd and that's what made me think of it having listened to it the other day. As mentioned in another thread there is a lot of that stuff. It's hijacked and tortured. Ag but you know, old rock 'n rollers can say that the heavier rock and metal is hijacked and tortured rock 'n roll. Who cares. It's sometimes quite a hoot to watch the puff daddy things in the white track suit and all.

MIKA-the-better-one

Ray wrote
dan77 wrote Now that I'm thinking about it - since this is a guitar forum I wonder whether anyone has ever heard of a good rapper guitarist ?????????

Not really no. But rap isnt that original really, just overworks a pretty neat idea actually. J Geils band did a bit of the old talk along.

Rock is no more original I find.... follows a basic format, to me its just the same as rap as its own genre.........

PeteM

MIKA the better one wrote
Ray wrote
dan77 wrote Now that I'm thinking about it - since this is a guitar forum I wonder whether anyone has ever heard of a good rapper guitarist ?????????

Not really no. But rap isnt that original really, just overworks a pretty neat idea actually. J Geils band did a bit of the old talk along.
Rock is no more original I find.... follows a basic format, to me its just the same as rap as its own genre.........

In that case, I suppose one can say that no music is original - it's all influenced by something or the other and follows some sort of format.
It's what the writer/composer, the performers and the audience get out of it that matters.

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