I am trying to get death metal - why can't I!!!!

Manfred-Klose

lindmuse, if you wanna check out a cool progressive metal band, check out symphony X, heavy guitars and clear vocals:

http://www.myspace.com/officialsymphonyx

anyway, its my favourite metal band.

lindsmuse

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I think this is pretty neat!. Clips the end off for some reason ...

Like that Typo negative - do you know where they fit in chronologically.

BMU

Alan Ratcliffe wrote I love Alice Cooper - my daughter was horrified when I showed her Marilyn Manson was not as new and original as she had previously thought. In any way. At all. ?

BWAAAHAAHAAA excellent!

+1 to Symphony X, excellent music and Michael Romeo is a top flight melodic shredder, one of the best. (Definitely not death metal though.) Also Kamelot, in the same vein.

I must say I'll take a mean nasty growl over the operatic vibrato style singing any day; there really is no accounting for taste! ?

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My friend Wiki tells me they started late 80's early 90's, but they've still released something in 2007.

doc-phil

Here's the video of 'Pray for Plagues' by Bring Me The Horizon. When I first heard it I thought it was rubbish... but now I like them. This was off their previous album, their new album is less death and more core.

I don't know why the video is being shown twice in this post... I can't get rid of the second one :-\

AlanRatcliffe

doc-phil wrote I don't know why the video is being shown twice in this post... I can't get rid of the second one :-\

You need to put just the URL in. i.e.:

http://www.youtube.com/v/AWggPLXeOkU

The forum software does the rest automatically. If you add all the other display code it shows up as text and the video shows twice.

SpeedStar

lindsmuse wrote Black metal, death metal the whole thing with fast guitars , insane drumming, it's good - I know it's good - but I think I just reached the generation gap - after so many years!. Maybe this is a major step in music evolution - who knows. Jut cant' listen to it. Satyricon I can sort of get, but some of the stuff I just feel like running away when I see/hear it! ?

It works both ways, I think of myself as kinda old already 24yr. I listen to progressive classical music, progressive rock, jazz fusion and symphonic metal (neo classical metal). Even as a dedicated guitarist, I can't bring myself to listen to classic rock (ACDC, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabath etc.) it sounds too predictable and boring. I also can't stand todays "R&B" and "Rap, Hip-Hop" to me it sounds like simple noises strung together to entertain the masses for a few weeks till the next one comes along.
So I think it comes down to a combination of inborn taste and exposure. My mom loves Jazz and classical, so by the time I was 22, when I started guitar, after having Take 5 and Brahms Symphony no. 1 beaten into me for years, I inclined towards a similar style for guitar.

Sean

Alan Ratcliffe wrote On the getting old front, my new pup ate my sheepskin slippers and my dear lady wife saw fit to get me some new ones - low tartan ones that don't even cover my ankles ???. All I need now is the smoking jacket and a pipe and I am my grandfather. Scary stuff. ?

Or Hugh Hefner...HAHAHA (don't know if he smokes a pipe)

singemonkey

Have you guys seen that awesome documentary: Metal, a headbanger's journey?

Great piece of work. But he points out that with metal, either it makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up, or it doesn't.

For me it didn't. I like Black Sabbath a lot, and AC/DC, Alice Cooper, Randy Rhoads Ozzy - transitional stuff (with the exception of Sabbath which really is metal). I kind of like earlier Metallica - like Kill 'em all. But ultimately it doesn't do for me what it does for real metalheads.

I think that's ok. I still respect the music and the people who make it and listen to it (although I think of Death Metal vocals as more an overused gimmick than a style ? ).

inflames

Metal, a headbanger's journey

That is the coolest documentary I have ever seen!
Thinking of it now, I need to start phoning my friends and see who's got my DVD!!!!!!

nicovlogg

I really believe it's possible to "Get into" a new style of music - listen to enough of it and you'll definitely start to pick up stuff you like. But, why try? ? If country and western floats your boat, there's no real need to try and get opera, or is there?

Although as a guitarist being able to rip some kind of riff that's totally out of your normal style is pretty useful. ?

singemonkey

nicovlogg wrote I really believe it's possible to "Get into" a new style of music - listen to enough of it and you'll definitely start to pick up stuff you like. But, why try? ? If country and western floats your boat, there's no real need to try and get opera, or is there?

Although as a guitarist being able to rip some kind of riff that's totally out of your normal style is pretty useful. ?

Sounds like you answered your own question. ? The longer I've played, the fewer styles of music I'm not interested in at all. I really hated shred growing up, but I found myself trying to learn the Randy Rhoads riff from Crazy Train (although he's so far the only shredder I'm entirely convinced by). In SA we also have the "advantage" that it's almost impossible to find people who like exactly what you like, so you end up playing right outside your comfort zone with buddies.

MoRBiD

dude il make u understand deathmetal ? cpt ??

MIKA-the-better-one

MoRBiD wrote dude il make u understand deathmetal ? cpt ??

note to do so he will make you dead

aja

MIKA the better one wrote
MoRBiD wrote dude il make u understand deathmetal ? cpt ??
note to do so he will make you dead

yeah the name gives that away hehe

Warren

It sometimes helps to contextualise stuff like metal, or punk rock etc.

What I mean is: it might not be the type of music you'll easily get into by just sitting down and listening to it like you would to an acoustic guitar album, for example. You might have more success if you get hold of some concert DVDs, where you can really get a feel for the whole spectacle, which is often a large part of the delivery of this kind of music.

But I do have an appreciation for some of the technical ability of these guitarists. I'm still not convinced that stuff like sweep-picking is really that impressive to anyone who's not a guitarist, but opinions differ wildly. ?

Still, I think that trying to develop some of the techniques for playing metal can only be helpful to the rest of your playing, regardless of your preferred genre. In fact, I think the same thing can be said for country: when I watch Jerry Donahue or Albert Lee do some "shredding" on a country track, I often feel quite inadequate about my own little collection of licks ?

One cool thing about both metal and country stuff is that it sounds very cool when you're playing unaccompanied too.

IceCreamMan

i been a metal head all my life (oh lord) BUT damn i dont get this death metal .....

Like the best part of banging yr head on a wall is when you stop the same when the music is swtiched off, the sense of relaxation is immense.

but then i guess i am too old to "gettit"

Bob-Dubery

Warren wrote It sometimes helps to contextualise stuff like metal, or punk rock etc.

What I mean is: it might not be the type of music you'll easily get into by just sitting down and listening to it like you would to an acoustic guitar album, for example. You might have more success if you get hold of some concert DVDs, where you can really get a feel for the whole spectacle, which is often a large part of the delivery of this kind of music.

Well that cuts both ways ?

I could watch concert footage of the Sex Pistols and notice all the spitting, the vomit all over Sid Vicious....

Bob-Dubery

X-rated Bob wrote
Warren wrote It sometimes helps to contextualise stuff like metal, or punk rock etc.

What I mean is: it might not be the type of music you'll easily get into by just sitting down and listening to it like you would to an acoustic guitar album, for example. You might have more success if you get hold of some concert DVDs, where you can really get a feel for the whole spectacle, which is often a large part of the delivery of this kind of music.
Well that cuts both ways ?

I could watch concert footage of the Sex Pistols and notice all the spitting, the vomit all over Sid Vicious....

In fact this is why I struggle with several manifestations of Metal. It's the whole scene. It seems you have to look a certain way, that lyrics are confined to certain areas, that form is more is more important than substance.

I'm not saying that this is fair. It may be that if I dug a bit deeper I'd find something that I really like, but there's a whole layer of cliche that you have to get through first.

Warren

X-rated Bob wrote
X-rated Bob wrote
Well that cuts both ways ?

I could watch concert footage of the Sex Pistols and notice all the spitting, the vomit all over Sid Vicious....
In fact this is why I struggle with several manifestations of Metal. It's the whole scene. It seems you have to look a certain way, that lyrics are confined to certain areas, that form is more is more important than substance.

I'm not saying that this is fair. It may be that if I dug a bit deeper I'd find something that I really like, but there's a whole layer of cliche that you have to get through first.

Of course, just because you're watching it doesn't mean you'll like it ?

But this whole "spectacle" thing seems to have started somewhere around the birth of the whole "rock god" idea (maybe with Daltry and Plant?).

Suddenly there had to be perms and spandex everywhere, and then there was shock-rock: Ozzy chewing on hamsters, Alice Cooper's stage theatrics etc. At some point you can hardly separate the music from the show: the two are one.

But the whole "scene" thing is true: part of the reason I never really listened to metal as a youngster was because I wasn't part of the metalhead crowd: my Doc Martins didn't have enough holes, my hair was far too short and my tattoos were...well they're weren't.

Seems like by the time I got older and realised I could listen to whatever the hell I wanted, it was too late.

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