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What process do you use for song writing? Do you use a process?

For me it usually starts with lyrics in my head that i'll write down and come back to later when I have time. sometimes even recording a bit of melody with myself singing into the cellphone's voice recorder.

Once ready I will figure out what the lyrics mean to me, if they can be part of a bigger theme and the writing starts with a few general questions. What do I want to say? How do I want to say it? Whats the mood of the song? etc.

First draft done and I compose the music part. This usually takes a pretty long time. Finding the right key etc. First time is usually only with acoustic. I normally also bounce the song off of my wife's ear for some input.
Back to the drawing board I edit lyrics, chords etc. At this point I start thinking about a drum track and other instruments that I want to add. Electric rhythm or lead which I fiddle around with for what feels like an eternity.

I would then record a 'final' version over and over and over until I feel my creative juices have stopped flowing. Then I leave it be. I come back to it a few weeks later, listen, edit and the process repeats itself until I am satisfied that I can't add anything else to the song.

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What process do you follow?
    Idea- Check
    Words and rhyme- Check and check again
    Write into verses and chorus, procrastinate while idea matures
    Seek suitable key and beat
    Chord placement and rhythm- Check
    Normally first "cut" in raw format is best - Don't believe in myself and start again
    Second and third tries sound crappier than original and lost its essence
    Can all effort.
    Feel dejected and sorry for myself.
    Next GFSA compo start again.

    My story and song writing experience....
      Great question - My major challenge has been going from a "creative spark" to finished product.

      My approach differs according to the genre...

      If singer/songwriter then : Pat Pattison's method taught at Coursera (https://www.coursera.org/learn/songwriting) is damn useful. (P.s. it's a free course and quite brilliant!) The concept of boxes - one of a host of tools he shares during the course is a powerful one.



      If metal/rock/blues/jazz then it's usually a guitar riff/progression that I want to work into a track. Record the rif/progression, loop jam drums and bass till I find something that works and build up the track as we go along. If lyrics are needed I'll use a few of Pat's tools and try ideas over the music. The last two things I usually track in are lyrics and solos.

      If other (electronic music/ambient) then I probably have been inspired by a sample or drum loop. For the the more upbeat stuff I mess around with starts from the drums, then bass line. The ambient stuff is usually a guitar/bass riff worked into something.

      More often than not - the methods will overlap - sometime you have to write something specific and that where Pat's tools comes in real useful. The december challenge (xmas carols) was a good example : had a melodic idea (lyrics), worked some chords and then developed lyrics to fit. A bit of a iterative process, but was fun!
        Stoffeltoo wrote: ...Don't believe in myself and start again
        Second and third tries sound crappier than original and lost its essence
        Can all effort.
        Feel dejected and sorry for myself...
        :rolleyes: +1 ya...haven't we all been there...
        Meron Rigas wrote: If singer/songwriter then : Pat Pattison's method taught at Coursera (https://www.coursera.org/learn/songwriting) is damn useful. (P.s. it's a free course and quite brilliant!)
        Have enrolled!! Thanks for the great resource Meron. I am already busy with the first lesson! Looking forward to this!

        I also sometimes just listen to a drum loop, then the guitar stars playing in my head. Epic tone, perfect finger positions, zero mistakes. then I open my eyes and attempt to do it for real... reality bytes!
          I've tended to come up with a lyric and a melody simultaneously. Then I try to think about what kind of structure and instrumentation would go along with this–the timbres I want hear in the finished song. This of course means that I'm sometimes physically incapable of playing what I've come up with ?

          So I kind of 'hear' the song in my head and then try to work out how to play it and record it. If it doesn't have enough interest I'll try to think about what I'd like to hear in the song to make it better (different parts or different timbres). Sometimes during recording I realise I need changes after hearing it back.
            singemonkey wrote: This of course means that I'm sometimes physically incapable of playing what I've come up with ?
            Exactly! Which leaves me feeling dejected and wondering how I will ever be a good guitarist. Which in turn motivates me to learn some more scales and modes and riffs and finger exercises and picking patterns and gear setup and and and then I forget to finish my song... vicious circle
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