Havn't gone through the vimeo clips yet - but I reallllly like the concept & the thought they've put into it.

I guess the latency of processing is negligible (2-5ms) & if one could plug a 3rd party midi controller (softstep/FCB1010) into it & custom map, it'll be a win for me - (ok, you could build up a custom board but I'm lazy & the wheel has already been invented :?)

That is interesting. A completely programmable multi-effect. Perfect if you need to cover a lot of ground but don't want a massive, do-it-all board.

The only real limiting factor will be processing power - how many processor hungry effects like reverb and harmonizers can it run before falling over? How many parallel chains, etc.

I only watched the main video, so maybe I need to watch all before commenting.

But, i agree with Alan. I have been reading a lot about Strymon pedals and how they get great sounds. And something they say over and over again is that you can only push a DSP so far. So, that is why they only have certain effects in one box. Because otherwise you have to sacrifice something (tone) for more effects simultaneously.

The whole concept is great on this Kickstarter.. But how is it really different to a Boss GT-100 (or whatever the latest boss is). Boss allows you to change effects order, different types of effects, presets, etc. Or am I missing something?

The whole arduino add on is cool though, opens up a lot of possibilities. But, would become more of a fun gimmick than something real.

All I know is music is going to take a different form in the next 5 years with all this crazy technology. ?

The difference is the effects are open-source, so other, 3rd party developers can make their own effects and you are not limited to just the ones that the hardware manufacturer includes.

So if you - for instance - want to have the blatty, rough fuzz of your old Shin-ei Companion or something else rare and unusual (or even new and unheard of), as long as there is someone out there willing to program it, you can have it. That sets it above even systems like Guitar Rig.

Also, even within the modern MFX, like the Boss, Line 6, Digitech and Zooms, etc. there are limitations to the FX architecture. Sure, you can have dual amps, but you can't have two different effects chains in front of those amps, you can't put an effect between amp and speaker. Even the much-touted AXE-FX has limitations (eg only four parallel chains and limits on how many of each effect you can have in a patch). And with all of them, there is a point at which you hit the processing wall. Granted, there are few people who take things that far that even an AFX will fall over, but they are limitations that do affect some folk (no names mentioned. cough... ?).

Speaking as someone who went from no effects to a couple of stomps, then full on multi-effects, and then back to stomps, I am not sure if I like this? Part of the appeal of my pedal board is that everything can be easily tweaked on the fly, without having to dig through menu's, and if I find a specific effect isn't working for me, I can flip it out, and swap it for a different manufacturer of the same effect. Will this ability to chop and change not be completely removed, to the point where if you don't like the trem that comes with this one, then you are stuck with it as there is no other trem available? I don't know? I suppose the fact that any developer can 'build' their own effects could make this a moot point, but until such a time that they do, you're stuck with what you've got.

The other thing I really like about stomps is the look. Lots of pretty colours and designs, and a free game of Tetris fitting them to your board! What more could a man want (or woman)? ?

Regards
G!

The more I think about it, the more I reckon this product is the future - if the indie plug-in developers embrace it. Especially if the development framework is solid - opens a new market of non daw/interface owning musicians who want that flexibility for live use. Also, the ability to carry around the setup you've crafted in your DAW in a stomp box could interest a lot of people

E.g Ignite amp's emissary head (thanks again to Doc Phil for that one) - load that up into a Duo Mod (w/expression pedal) along with the impulse/cabinet emulator, add a delay and a wah and there's a sweet rig to plug into a full range speaker.

Perhaps even a company like Peavey could license it with a embedded version of Revalver (kinda defeats the open source vibe, but still another application of the concept)

Big G wrote: Speaking as someone who went from no effects to a couple of stomps, then full on multi-effects, and then back to stomps, I am not sure if I like this?

...and speaking as someone who has done the effects-go-round completely two times, I do like it.

Software is the future, but it needs solid, gig-ready companion hardware to go with it. And user interfaces that even a guitarist can use. ? And that is ever improving.

A change that has helped with this is that sound setups are increasingly well managed and controlled systems. Even small rigs are fairly high quality and feature-rich compared to days of yore. In-ear monitors are providing a reliable and consistent stage experience too, so there is far less need to continually tweak and be ready to cope with the chaos that used to be a live gig.

Another change is that more and more musos are conversant in technology and are used to dealing with more levels of the music creation process themselves - we are all becoming live, mixing and mastering engineers and a little bit computer geek on the side. As a generalist who has always thrown myself at every aspect of music I used to be the exception, now I'm fast becoming the norm.

What more could a man want (or woman)? ?

Compactness, control, flexibility, reliability, power and yes, even simplicity. Sure, there's more tweaking involved, but once you get your tweaks done, they are saved and there are less problems in the future - at the worst, you have a good starting point and a few gross changes in volume and tonality to suit the application bring everything into line (and that's a skill you learn). You do have to make sure you have quick and easy access to those controls that still matter in the heat of the moment - volume and tone, otherwise, once you've done your basic setup, you're done.

I can see how some people would find it a beneficial tool, and I'm not saying I wouldn't consider having one, but i would most likely only be as part of a board rather than the entire board. I guess I just don't have the confidence that one dual stomp pedal can have the processing power, and tonality to do everything I want/need in one box? I realise that one day there will come a point where all pedals will be nothing more than a digital modeled representation of the 'real thing', and in some ways, we are already most of the way there, but I am too skeptical that it can be done WELL all in one box at this point I guess?

And you are still forgetting about the free game of Tetris! (that was what my comment about 'what more could a man want' was referring to. ? )

Regards
G!

Hey, my Brazilian buddy Bruno is an engineer on this project. he and his girlfriend both feature briefly in this video.

As a linux guy myself, I am very very enthusiastic about anything open source. I really hope this project gets enough (b)(h)ackers ?

They reached their funding target!

The Mod DUO is going to market ? ?