Idiots

WantzChas

I just wanted to share this and maybe this has happened to other people as well, well it got me really pissed and I'm glad I'm South African.

I recently bought a second hand Ibanez S540 guitar. I love it and as with everything I love I need to know as much as possible about it. So today I joined the "Official" Ibanez forum because that makes sense, and posted a thread asking questions like what it retailed for back in the day etc.

Then I got a reply from this guy (cough, cough American cough) telling me to research stuff properly and use the search bar before a post which I always do. After searching I didn't find appropriate answers so I opened up a new thread. It came down to that I'm lazy and want other people to do my research for me. I mean really, what is the point of a forum then? Referring to Google searches? My view of a forum is to get opinions from knowledgeable people and people who had previous experiences with similar problems.

To get to the point, South Africans have a lot better manners and I'm very grateful to the creators, moderators and contributors of this forum.

I don't know if I'm allowed to post the link to the thread, so if you are interested in reading it, PM me and I'll send you the link.

Manfred-Klose

Dont mind about the guys on the other side of the ocean they tend to be a bit grumpy.

I'm shure alan,gearhead or someone else will give you an even better answer for the info on your ibanez.

Manfred-Klose

Try following this and download the old catologs, maybe you'll find something:

http://www.ibanez.co.jp/anniversary/

I didn't try it, but let me know if it works.

Wizard

Who knows - maybe he has a really small 'guitar' and has a complex about it ... and is making up for his insecurity with his attitude.

Or ... this could be the very same point we covered extensively in the Muso shop thread.
We were reminded to not judge a shop by just one bad experience.
Perhaps we need to apply the same logic here.
Maybe it's a really cool forum and you ran into an idiot having a bad hair day?

(hey - I'm trying to be a better person here. I'm really, really trying)

WantzChas

I'm sure it's not, I just couldn't get past the narrow mindness and selfishness of a guy who, according to his signature, own three S540s, but not want to share in experience and knowledge.

Wizard

Highlights that the reputation of an entire forum is dependent on the responses of each of its members ... especially to new-comers and guests.

AlanRatcliffe

That'll learn ya to go spreading your questions on other forums. ?

I can sort of understand the attitude (but don't agree with it) - after a while certain questions get a bit repetitive. No excuse not to be polite and can easily be solved by getting a forum FAQ together, or simply bookmarking a few good threads to quickly post links when a question pops up.

Some people can only feel big when they are tearing someone else down. It's their problem, not your question.

Gearhead

Thanks for the vote of confidence but don't expect any knowledgeable answers from Gearhead about Ibes.
I just found out from the catalog link above that my bass is actually a ES824 (I did know it was an '81) and that I also own a thing called the RS520BK with IBZ pickups that from the looks of it was only produced in '84. I do like the bass but I will be selling the guitar as soon as I finish something new.
About asking the same questions on forums: I am not particularly impressed with the search function in a lot of forums, excluding this one of course ?

Ray

Well, I agree with our boy WantzChas here. Not sure what member categories they have on that forum but I assume they have something like "Newbie". In my opinion Newbies have certain rights, and seniors, fulls, heros, etc. have certain duities. It's like in school. Someone's got to help the form 1's. That has certainly been my experience on this forum. Unless that forum has some specific rules which are published on the site, which the guy could have directed you to as well really.

DaFiz

Could it it not have been that he already had a thread elsewhere on that forum...? :-\

On some of the bike forums people often ask silly questions and get sent elsewhere by exerienced forumites. Like... what to buy... used grey import 400cc bike?
Someone will "politely" (sic) post a www.thread-already-posted.somewhere.
with a dof smiley ???

I can only say... I love all Ibanez guitars and I'd probly send him a cheeky response for not being nice. ?

Bob-Dubery

Manfred Klose wrote Dont mind about the guys on the other side of the ocean they tend to be a bit grumpy.

I'm shure alan,gearhead or someone else will give you an even better answer for the info on your ibanez.

Forums, mailing lists, usenet groups do tend to each have their own ethos or character. Some are helpful. Some are not. Some are polite. Some are not.

A while back I needed to get up to speed on some opensource development tools. The folks on the MySQL forum that I got involved could not have been more helpful or pleasent. The Python guys were OK, if somtimes having difficulty talking down to my level, the guys on the Usenet Perl group were the kind that Wizard ran into :"You're cluess newbie (or, sometimes, clueless f...ing newbie), why don't you RTFM. Once you've RTFM then read the camel book (famous book in the Perl world, published by the O'Reilly group), It's all in there!"

Yes, this forum is a helpful and generally friendly one. I think a lot has to do with the tone set by our moderators. Karma to each of you!

WantzChas

DaFiz wrote Could it it not have been that he already had a thread elsewhere on that forum...? :-\

There was other threads, but it didn't supply the information I needed. But I'm good now

Wizard

Bob Dubery wrote The Python guys were OK ...

Hey Bob ... I recently did a bit of Python work ... fun stuff ...

MoJo-JoJoe

WantzChas

Thanks MoJo, I allready did the serial number decoder thing, it's F138637.

I'll post a photo later today

MoJo-JoJoe

Gearhead

@ MJJJ... not to steal anyone's thread or anything, but being a fan, how do you rate my RS520BK?

MoJo-JoJoe

Renesongs

I've been around many guitar forums before this one , Yeah mainly American because they are just so prolific. And yes I have also been flamed once or twice for not reading all 45926 topics containing 7125345 threads before daring to ask a question. I have learned 2 things about the desperate flaming potty-mouthers, and that is, they seldom know what they talking about,and, they don't have a life outside of the 16 hours a day they spend on their forum.

We are a pretty laid-back crowd here at GFSA. Here are a couple of mantras that I am trying to adopt for myself in my quest for guitar forum nirvana.?

If someone asks a question that has been covered 100 times, flaming them it is a waste of energy and counter productive, refer them to the relevant thread or if you are having a grumpy day simply don't reply. 8)

If someone trashes your favourite artist/guitar or opinion, say ommmmmm while trying to imagine them with a pair of pants on their head. State your disagreement in a positive fashion pointing out the better aspects of your guitar/artist or opinion. If they continue to trash your thread, in you mind take the pants off their head and imagine the warm air billowing out and move on. You can take an ass to water but you can't make it appreciate strawberrys.:applause:

Not everyone gets your sense of humour be mindful of that. People get a bit cheesed off when you continuously lampoon them over a comment they made 1500 threads ago. :-\

If someone begins a character assignation, hate speech, politicking, religious rants or hijacking this forum soly for the purposes of promoting their product, push the "report to moderator" link and one of use will show them the door. >☹

WantzChas

Ok, I'm going to try posting the pics, via Photobucket. I took photo's from all angles so I hope they help.