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What do you prefer, a amp with a effects loop or one without and why?
    With. So I can have effects before and after the preamp.

    Some amps are just right the way they are though ...which is why my Twin doesn't have a loop...
      No effects loop. I like power amp drive so an effects loop doesn't give me anything interesting.
        Ja I'm not fussy about this either. For the styles I'm interested in playing, having pristine delay/reverb isn't important. To me it sounds perfectly fine if those things get overdriven a bit on the way to the speakers.
          ez wrote: Ja I'm not fussy about this either. For the styles I'm interested in playing, having pristine delay/reverb isn't important. To me it sounds perfectly fine if those things get overdriven a bit on the way to the speakers.
          Same here

          Edit: my amp has an effects loop but I never use it. I put my delay through it once but then realised for the tiny bit of delay I use, it's just not worth the extra cables. I wasn't completely sold on how it sounded in the loop anyway.
            No effects loop, for two reasons:
            • I don't really use effects, and when I occasionally do, I really don't use the sort that benefit from being in a loop.
            • The amps I like were designed before effects loops were used by guitarists, so it's pretty moot anyway
            One of the things I like about those amps, of course, is the power amp drive mentioned by Alan Ratcliffe. And that's something that I like so much, I don't even want a master volume control...
              Me likes da loop for a number of reasons
              - modulation and time based effects sound better to me after the preamp;
              - I can use stereo effects, which my preamp cannot do on the input but it can do on the effects return;
              - I can blend synth sounds into the effects loop and bypass the preamp.

              If I were a better player I'd want to just play with a wah pedal and maybe a midboost into an amp with reverb, that's it. But I'm no good ?
                Gearhead wrote: If I were a better player I'd want to just play with a wah pedal and maybe a midboost into an amp with reverb, that's it. But I'm no good ?
                I go the other way. I'm no good, so I keep my effects count low so there's less to confuse me ?
                  Psean wrote:
                  Gearhead wrote: If I were a better player I'd want to just play with a wah pedal and maybe a midboost into an amp with reverb, that's it. But I'm no good ?
                  I go the other way. I'm no good, so I keep my effects count low so there's less to confuse me ?
                  Oh I only have one effects unit :?
                    Gearhead wrote: Oh I only have one effects unit :?
                    ?
                      My one amp has an effects loop and I haven't used it in 12 years. :? I'd rather just stick everything in front of the amp and when the situation arises that I'm not using my own amp, at least I'll have a pretty good idea what it sounds like. and ja, the less cables I have the better.
                        All very good points to consider, however I found a effects loop invaluable when using a looper. Nothing more annoying than having a distorted loop track when you adjust the gain on your preamp.

                        One thing that I hate about the effects-loop on my amp, is that I cant use any regular instrument level pedals in it without frying them. ☹
                          One advantage of the modelling/DI route is that I can have effects post amp/speaker (which I often want for compression, room 'verbs and EQ). Amp FX sends are a bit of a compromise - better than in front of the preamp for some FX, but not as good for others.
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