Time to get really guitar

chris77

Sorry for the slight highjack, but while the folks are talking pricing and and what not.....
What is the current pricing like for a '72 Fender Deluxe Tele at the moment? (The one with the strat shaped headstock and two buckers.)
Also the La Cabronita. Has anyone seen one in the local stores, and what was it going for?

MIKA-the-better-one

La Cabronita will be more money.... the 72 will run new in Musc Con for about 15k..... used around 7k.

Averatu

singemonkey wrote You can buy used Fenders from here:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/browse/used/products.jsp?fA=a&fI=2002&fV=site1AA&fT=2002%3Asite1A#fT=2002:site1AA:2010:Fender&gP=1&pS=20&v=g&sB=bS&lP=u

Find out what they charge for shipping.

Because shipping is by weight and size, you'll pay the same for an cheap guitar or an expensive one, so it probably only makes sense to buy a slightly more expensive one.

Last time we inquired they did not ship to Darkest Africa.

Averatu

These days I'm really skeptical about buying even branded guitars as the counterfeits are so good, and I have even heard gossip of some agents moving these under the table,but I would not make such claims. I've been offered a 'Gibson Les Paul" for R5k, a friend found a similar deal from a shop in the Cape. And when it sounds too good to be true, chances are.

Africa's relationship with the East being the way it is, we're much more likely to get the fakes, just like when the EU rejected honey from China, it ended up on the Shelves in Africa, kids buy Chappies and end up with Melamine poisoning.

chris77

Thanks Mika. Have you played a Cabronita in the US yet?

deefstes

MIM / MIA - designates on which side of the border the Mexicans assembled the guitar ?

Norman86

deefstes wrote MIM / MIA - designates on which side of the border the Mexicans assembled the guitar ?

Pretty much hey...

stu wrote Im not ruling out buy locally if I find a good deal.
I just really like the idea of a brand new strat.

Now, deluxe, standard, custom.... What are all the differences?

I have sort of picked up that standard means MIM..?

Any Fender Standard Strat or Standard Tele is MIM.
Unless it says American Standard.

Deluxe have better parts fitted. As in the American Deluxe which is priced above the American Standard.
Custom i cannot tell you.

But a normal standard is without a doubt made in Mehico!

Bob-Dubery

Averatu wrote
singemonkey wrote You can buy used Fenders from here:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/browse/used/products.jsp?fA=a&fI=2002&fV=site1AA&fT=2002%3Asite1A#fT=2002:site1AA:2010:Fender&gP=1&pS=20&v=g&sB=bS&lP=u

Find out what they charge for shipping.

Because shipping is by weight and size, you'll pay the same for an cheap guitar or an expensive one, so it probably only makes sense to buy a slightly more expensive one.
Last time we inquired they did not ship to Darkest Africa.

Which is as it should be. There is a Fender distributor here, and Fender in the USA will not permit one distributor to sell in or to another's territory.

I'd think that for used guitars, though, all bets are off.

Bob-Dubery

Tokai SA wrote With Fender Strats and Teles you need to play a bunch of them and then decide.
Take your time, line them up, plug them in, and an hour later you'll know which one to buy.
Don't worry whether it's a Deluxe or Standard or Custom, or whatever.

There's a Mexican Standard, a Mexican Road Worn, Japanese Pawn Shop specials, an American Standard, an American Deluxe, Custom Shop, etc.
They all have different specs, different neck radius, different frets, different bridges, different tuners, different pickups, ash or alder, 3 single coils, 2 humbuckers, 2 single coils and one humbucker, etc, etc. ?
Knowing all the specs will just confuse you, that's why I say go and play a bunch of them and see which one feels comfortable in your hands...who knows, you might land up with a made in Mexico Vintage Re-Issue with a 7,25" radius and vintage frets, or a John Mayer sig with 9.5" radius and 6105 frets.

Fender have a bewildering product line, and this is by far the most sensible piece of advice I've read about choosing a Fender.

Karma be unto thee.

StephenG

Stu - have you tried logging on to fender.com and doing a product comparison??

simply click the models you interested in and then click "compare" = easy peasey, lemon squeasey...

they will give you a side by side comparison of features...

wont help you decide which one is better for you, that you have to feel and play for yourself.. but it will show you the diffs between each model.

stu

Thanks for the advise guys.

Bob, Ill check that place out. Sounds awesome! ?

Highway-Chile

StephenG wroteStu - have you tried logging on to fender.com and doing a product comparison.......simply click the models you interested in and then click "compare?

You know I was wondering about that myself.

deefstes wroteMIM / MIA - designates on which side of the border the Mexicans assembled the guitar ?

Ohhh :dance:...Bada Bing!!!! :roflmao:

Dude, priceless! Did you come up wit dat your ownself?

Bob-Dubery

Highway Chile wrote
StephenG wroteStu - have you tried logging on to fender.com and doing a product comparison.......simply click the models you interested in and then click "compare?
You know I was wondering about that myself.

Well that's only so much help. You'll learn that the Renesongs Signature model has the "squawkmeister" bridge pickup whilst the "super deluxe 6 star strat" has unobtanium bridge pieces.

But what does all that mean? How does it translate into sound and into how the thing feels in your hands?

This is especially problematic with Fender who seem to be trying to be all things to all guitar players. So TokaiSA is right .... just go to the shop and play few "Stratocasters" (which is a pretty loose term these days) and hear and feel the differences for yourself and discover what the different mutations are all about.

Squonk

X-rated Bob wrote Well that's only so much help. You'll learn that the Renesongs Signature model has the "squawkmeister" bridge pickup whilst the "super deluxe 6 star strat" has unobtanium bridge pieces.

But what does all that mean? How does it translate into sound and into how the thing feels in your hands?

This is especially problematic with Fender who seem to be trying to be all things to all guitar players. So TokaiSA is right .... just go to the shop and play few "Stratocasters" (which is a pretty loose term these days) and hear and feel the differences for yourself and discover what the different mutations are all about.

How is your "Strat" doing Bob? You don't mention it much

Bob-Dubery

Squonk wrote
X-rated Bob wrote Well that's only so much help. You'll learn that the Renesongs Signature model has the "squawkmeister" bridge pickup whilst the "super deluxe 6 star strat" has unobtanium bridge pieces.

But what does all that mean? How does it translate into sound and into how the thing feels in your hands?

This is especially problematic with Fender who seem to be trying to be all things to all guitar players. So TokaiSA is right .... just go to the shop and play few "Stratocasters" (which is a pretty loose term these days) and hear and feel the differences for yourself and discover what the different mutations are all about.
How is your "Strat" doing Bob? You don't mention it much

I'm very glad that you asked that question, Sir, and I really want to give you a proper, considered answer. So I'll see you at the pub tomorrow night and we can discuss the matter then ?

deefstes

Highway Chile wrote
deefstes wroteMIM / MIA - designates on which side of the border the Mexicans assembled the guitar ?
Ohhh :dance:...Bada Bing!!!! :roflmao:

Dude, priceless! Did you come up wit dat your ownself?

Nope, I read it on this very forum some time ago. Unfortunately I can't remember in which thread or by whom. ?

Highway-Chile

I wasn't suggesting he "buy" a guitar purely off his research at Fender.com Bob.

I was referring to one of his first questions....

So Im looking for some advise about buying one. What to look for etc. because there seem to be so many different types of strats/teles with different prices.

As well as .......

Dont forget to answer my question about different kinds of Fenders and the price differences

Going to the Fender website and spending a little time there will at least allow someone to start to see some differences in neck radius, pickups, wood, color, bridge, wiring, fret wire etc etc. Googling the actual model name will bring up prices etc or even going to Sweetwater or Musicians Friend.

I'm not knocking him for asking the question at all. Just wondered why he had not done a little pre-research yet.

And yes......a year ago or so I counted and there were around 52 different models of Stratocaster at the Fender website.......farking ridiculous. back in the day it was one model and several different color choices. I am a Fender Strat man and have been since a very long time........love Gibson's also........but if they find themselves in a shithole because they have spread themselves too far and wide out of greed......then so be it, they brought it on themselves.

That whole Gibson Jimi Hendrix Signature Stratocaster model debacle, really made my blood boil.

Ever once in a while I go in and play guitars in the stores around me....there are two Guitar Center's close and a Sam Ash across the street and up a bit, walking distance from my house. Quality control seems to be a problem at Fender, especially on their guitars under $1100 or so. I can't tell you how many I have played that had shit intonation, saddle adjusters that snagged me on the heel of my hand, horrible actions...even high and still buzzing, loose parts ( my all time piss me off pet peeve, the loose Volume or Tone knob)....missing selector switch knobs, slipping tuners..........it is really disgusting.

I bought a $1700 B-Bender Nashville Tele and within a week the B-Bender was clicking/clucking really loudly. I ended up calling Gene Parsons directly ( he was in The Byrds and invented the B-Bender for guitar player- Clarence White ) and he told me they had been screwing up the installations at Fender. So even though it was only 2 weeks into it's warranty, I sent it to Gene and paid him to completely re-install and set it up as well as doing a long throw option to take it closer to how Clarence White's guitar was set up. It's beauty now. Just to say though.......like has been said before, you really have to play them.

That used Fiesta Red American Strat sounds like it is beautymous!!!

Norman86

deefstes wrote
Highway Chile wrote
deefstes wroteMIM / MIA - designates on which side of the border the Mexicans assembled the guitar ?
Ohhh :dance:...Bada Bing!!!! :roflmao:

Dude, priceless! Did you come up wit dat your ownself?
Nope, I read it on this very forum some time ago. Unfortunately I can't remember in which thread or by whom. ?

Im pretty sure its even on fender's own forum!!

PS... Be sure to check out G&L guitars too.
they're ALSO true Fenders!
G(eorge Fullerton) & L(eo Fender)

Tokai too (Bar the fact it doesnt say Fender, its true in every sense of the word)

singemonkey

Averatu wrote
singemonkey wrote You can buy used Fenders from here:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/browse/used/products.jsp?fA=a&fI=2002&fV=site1AA&fT=2002%3Asite1A#fT=2002:site1AA:2010:Fender&gP=1&pS=20&v=g&sB=bS&lP=u

Find out what they charge for shipping.

Because shipping is by weight and size, you'll pay the same for an cheap guitar or an expensive one, so it probably only makes sense to buy a slightly more expensive one.
Last time we inquired they did not ship to Darkest Africa.

A member posted to say that they ship used gear. There are no issues around distribution rights for used equipment (even if the distributors would like it otherwise).

Highway-Chile

What are the import fees, tariffs etc on used equipment coming in to SA? Same or less than new?

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