Basically a small line array speaker system. The concept has been used in big PA for decades and offers very precise shaping of where the sound is directed, so it can be focused where it will do the most good.

The Bose L1 series maybe? The Bose models have been around a few years. Very popular with acoustic players. Does away with the need for a monitor system and a very clear, natural sound with a very diffuse sound dispersion. Not as good for banging hip-hop or rock, but very impressive at what they do.

The prices have always been a bit steep, but other competition is beginning to appear - I know Fishman introduced one this year already. I'm waiting until everyone and their uncle has a model - that's when we'll see prices drop and we'll see a lot more systems in use.

EDIT: Just found them - the K-Array KR100

Alan Ratcliffe wrote: Basically a small line array speaker system. The concept has been used in big PA for decades and offers very precise shaping of where the sound is directed, so it can be focused where it will do the most good.

The Bose L1 series maybe? The Bose models have been around a few years. Very popular with acoustic players. Does away with the need for a monitor system and a very clear, natural sound with a very diffuse sound dispersion. Not as good for banging hip-hop or rock, but very impressive at what they do.

The prices have always been a bit steep, but other competition is beginning to appear - I know Fishman introduced one this year already. I'm waiting until everyone and their uncle has a model - that's when we'll see prices drop and we'll see a lot more systems in use.

EDIT: Just found them - the K-Array KR100

Thats the one, obviously yr google works faster than mine as i was searching for it too ?

Thanks

I was mesmerised by the clarity of this system ....even at loud levels it was clear ....unfortuiantely expensive but dayum should my 6 numbers come up this is something i would buy

Edit: 67 hundred US dollahs ...expensive everywhere.

Hi There.

I am a DJ and had to buy a new portable PA last month. I had a look at the K-array and the like. I came across the Bose L1 range. What a system!
I bought 2 bose L1 compact systems (150PAX each) and they retail for R15K each before discount. The sound is amazing and the clarity unbeatable, And they are really good looking!

In my opinion, all these portable array systems are copies of the original bose idea. Go and check them out. http://www.acousticfingerstyle.com/BoseL1.htm

John1587 wrote: Hi There.

I am a DJ and had to buy a new portable PA last month. I had a look at the K-array and the like. I came across the Bose L1 range. What a system!
I bought 2 bose L1 compact systems (150PAX each) and they retail for R15K each before discount. The sound is amazing and the clarity unbeatable, And they are really good looking!

In my opinion, all these portable array systems are copies of the original bose idea. Go and check them out. http://www.acousticfingerstyle.com/BoseL1.htm

I was gob smacked at just how good this was for a portable system .... i have heard the Bose range but cant remember them being this good but i guess room accoustics play a huge role too.

if i had 45 clip ...i would not hesitate

IceCreamMan wrote: I was mesmerised by the clarity of this system ....even at loud levels it was clear ....unfortuiantely expensive but dayum should my 6 numbers come up this is something i would buy

Yes, the guys at Turnkey Music have a K-Array KR100S system on show. Glad to hear you like the system so much.

I know you're not a fan of theirs right now, but Music Connection will be running the live band at Saturday's Pedal Party through a KR100S system if you're interested in hearing it in the context of live music.

my question always when it comes to expensive PA's and 45K is in my books fairly expensive ........ when does a band ever need such a system..sure they all great to have.........

but such a system unless you have a money tree in your back garden is wasted on a practise room and the occassional gig .......

and for the pro's i always believe whenever I'm hired to do a "big" gig that pays enough to warrant a 45K PA the sound is normaly done by pro sound companies , and so would any festival ect ....so the artists never have to worry about it ...

normally it's just the small gigs that need a supplied PA ...... and they pay so badly that do they warrant the layout of a 45K rig to earn what small venues pay ...... to me it's ecomonics......

and like i said if budget or return on investment was never an issue of course i'd buy and use the "toppermost of the poppermosts" quality gear ......

but the reality is a 6 -10K PA would do the job and secure the same gigs ..

.i'd always make sure my own "personal" gear (guitars/fx/amps ect) was top end.........

and the horrid fact is yes even an Expensive PA will eventually depending on how many shows you do before it repays itself get outdated fast ...., since PA gear is advancing technologicaly so fast that even the so called cheap brands are more than sufficient and deliver high power and prove reliable......... (again i look at what you need the PA for...like i said small gigs only) least then the band doesn't just gig for the pa that will in 2 years be outdated and outclassed by smaller more effecient gear ,

rather buy more/better guitars and backline gear .......and more much more whiskey

Keira WitherKay wrote: rather buy more/better guitars and backline gear .......and more much more whiskey

Makes sense to me. ?

Keira WitherKay wrote: rather buy more/better guitars and backline gear .......and more much more whiskey

A couple a' quarts of beer would fix it so the intonation would not offend your ear - Joe's Garage, Frank Zappa ?

I dunno though - better sound quality sets you apart from the rank and file and does have an effect on the audience's enjoyment - whether they know it consciously or not - just like getting all the notes right. Venue owners especially notice it - and they are really the ones you have to impress.

I knew a solo cover act here in Cape Town a decade ago who used what I first thought was an overkill system for pubs (Shure wireless mic and guitar system, Roland Mixer, and a bi-amped system with Crown amps and EV speakers). But he ended up virtually cornering the market for nearly a decade - everyone wanted him, not only because he was good at his job, but largely because he sounded great too.

IMO - that perfectionism should extend to every aspect of your show, from instrument to PA speakers, from practice to performance and even spending extra time to get your backing tracks right (if you use them).

So why, if you are not prepared to compromise on your instrument or backline, would you do so on the PA - which does all the heavy lifting? Even for a small show. Granted, you have to work your way up to buying a more expensive system, but, as a pro, it's your business and you owe it to yourself to invest in the tools of your trade and upgrade them as and when possible.

I wonder, are those ribbon speakers?

Averatu wrote: I wonder, are those ribbon speakers?

No. Multiple 2" dynamic drivers with neodymium magnets. Sub is a 12".

Alan Ratcliffe wrote:

Keira WitherKay wrote: rather buy more/better guitars and backline gear .......and more much more whiskey

A couple a' quarts of beer would fix it so the intonation would not offend your ear - Joe's Garage, Frank Zappa ?


I knew a solo cover act here in Cape Town a decade ago who used what I first thought was an overkill system for pubs (Shure wireless mic and guitar system, Roland Mixer, and a bi-amped system with Crown amps and EV speakers). But he ended up virtually cornering the market for nearly a decade - everyone wanted him, not only because he was good at his job, but largely because he sounded great too.


So why, if you are not prepared to compromise on your instrument or backline, would you do so on the PA - which does all the heavy lifting? Even for a small show.

i know who you talking about quite well alan his surname rhymes with 2+3 , but don't forget he is a biz man of note and could convince any venue they needed him, and played his note for note solo's well enough to impress most people who liked that kind of thing , and he was a showman , who had great crowd appeal, people would see him for 5 min and be his best friend........ and yes he always had nice gear but i saw him rock venues with next to no gear when he was playing hotel scene way back ...... he is one of the few muso's who has the package of talent/biz sense/crowd appeal ... not many of us are as lucky as that ........ so i think it's way beyond that he just had a good sound.......

i think this is one point( the pa issue) alan and i will never agree on.......and we allowed too disagree ........ as a pro i can name plenty acts who play on minimalist gear and always work and get gigs ...i'm one of them....i have a pile of pa gear at home (subs ect ect ) and take the minimum to any gig to me it's more practical and makes economic scense , and when i do big functions i get it into the contract that pro sound or some other sound company will do my sound..........so remember we ONLY talking small gigs here ....... as i mentioned even at a the prestigious place hotel where i did my rescent residency the mainstay PA system used by the 3 resident muso's who needed sound systems there are all warfdale /behringer ect nothing top end and everyone sounds great too ........

and feel free to disagree, but most cheaper PA's today as in powered speakers sound pretty great whereas 10yrs ago the cheap gear really sucked big time........ but hey lets agree to disagree....... ?

and re the not compromising on backline and instruments .is because thats what you use in studio and all you need for the bigger gigs where systems are there and provided by the organiser/venue .........

Ask Mr T on the site for special price

Nitebob wrote: Ask Mr T on the site for special price

i fear even at the special price its unobtanium right now ?

:roflmao:

Glad to hear I am not alone in this boat IceCreamMan..