First BR600 Recording!

NorioDS

I am soooo beyond happy! ?

This is my first recording with the BR600. I haven't recorded anything in years because it's such a schlep but this was soooooo easy! I just recorded this in minutes, it's awesome. I played the rhythm guitar, bass guitar and lead. The percussion is a pre-loaded track that comes with the BR600. Enjoy and PLEASE leave a comment ?

http://www.box.net/shared/ufu8cdxduek80cqrcflp

PS: This also doubles as a NGD clip from when I bought this: http://www.guitarforum.co.za/guitar-gear/happy-ngd-to-me!/
PPS: This is with the stock pups. Will record something again once I get around to sticking in the new pups.

Wizard

got this warning when i followed the link to happy-ngd-to-me:

Warning: Something's Not Right Here!
www.guitarforum.co.za contains content from www.supertouchart.com, a site known to distribute malware. Your computer might catch a virus if you visit this site.

NorioDS

Ja I also did but I can't do anything to fix it. Or at least I don't know of anything I can do to fix it. Some numbnut reported GFSA as containing malware - oi vay!

NorioDS

Any feedback / tips for me? :-[

AlanRatcliffe

The guitar is sounding great. The recording is good too.

However, you do need to work on your timing when you play lead - timing is, if anything, more important than note choice. Crank the rhythm section when you record so that it's right in your face and always be aware of exactly where the beats are. Sit and play along with drum rhythms for hours on end and eventually you won't even have to think about it.

jcp

Nice sound, Norio. Good idea. I think that you should clean a little more your timing, this rythm pattern is a little bit difficult. ?

Johnny-B

Norio, I also use a BR-600 for recording. I'm not sure if you are aware but there is a really good BR-600 user community thread on the forums at Librivox.org
https://forum.librivox.org/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3927&start=465
It presently runs to 32 pages!

shaundtsl

I cant access box.net from work :-\ But I will give it a listen this evening at home.

I am interested to hear what you did because I got myself a BR600 a few months back and still trying to wrap my head around it. That little machine packs a huge punch!

NorioDS

Thanks guys!

Alan Ratcliffe wrote: The guitar is sounding great. The recording is good too.

Thanks!

Alan Ratcliffe wrote: However, you do need to work on your timing when you play lead - timing is, if anything, more important than note choice. Crank the rhythm section when you record so that it's right in your face and always be aware of exactly where the beats are. Sit and play along with drum rhythms for hours on end and eventually you won't even have to think about it.

Thanks much for this advice! It's simple enough for me to action and I'm sure will help a lot. The timing issue started becoming apparent to me after a few listens, a day or 2 after recording. Is this normal - to be in love with your recording initially and then gradually come to hate it and pick out every flaw? Is this how people get better?

I'm so glad I can record now so I can hear what other people are hearing when I make them sit through a session of my playing ?

jcp wrote: Nice sound, Norio.

Thanks!

jcp wrote: Good idea. I think that you should clean a little more your timing,

Will do!

jcp wrote: this rythm pattern is a little bit difficult. ?

You're kidding right?

Johnny B wrote: Norio, I also use a BR-600 for recording. I'm not sure if you are aware but there is a really good BR-600 user community thread on the forums at Librivox.org
https://forum.librivox.org/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3927&start=465
It presently runs to 32 pages!

Thanks, I checked it out but I'm not the kinda guy who reads through 32 pages of a thread to find something ? I'd rather Google, baby! ?

shaundtsl wrote: I cant access box.net from work :-\ But I will give it a listen this evening at home.

Thanks ?

shaundtsl wrote: I am interested to hear what you did because I got myself a BR600 a few months back and still trying to wrap my head around it. That little machine packs a huge punch!

It's a huge beast and I just sat there trying to figure it out for a while and it really confounded me and then I went back onto YouTube, found this video...

...and followed it step by step. You'll also want to check out our very own Donovan Bank's BR600 videos. Some VERY good advice there and his videos are very easy to follow. (Very well presented).

Warren

Thanks much for this advice! It's simple enough for me to action and I'm sure will help a lot. The timing issue started becoming apparent to me after a few listens, a day or 2 after recording. Is this normal - to be in love with your recording initially and then gradually come to hate it and pick out every flaw? Is this how people get better?

Yes. I was never more despondent than when I recorded some stuff with the band I was in, and it just sounded terrible. Like, really terrible. Playing live we were sounding quite good, nice and tight. But the recordings...eish. As time went by we did some further recordings and the later stuff was vastly better.

Recordings are harsh teachers, but just keep at it!

Garth-S

Great stuff Norio ? Apart from the timing issue, it sounds great. The tone is amazing for such a little device. I love my BR600, it is the best piece of gear I've ever owned.

Take a listen to my most recent BR600 recording -> http://www.box.net/shared/6q99324n2x

NorioDS

Thanks Warren ? It helps to know I'm not alone!

Thanks Garth ? I'm very surprised at its tone. I did nothing but select 2 built-in tones from the library and play! Just brilliant! Question, do you program your own drumbeats or just create arrangements from built-in patterns?

NorioDS

Also, what did you use for recording your vocals? I'm assuming you recorded this song one track at a time? Or did you record maybe the acoustic along with the vocals? I remember listening to this track a while ago and having it stuck in my head for the rest of the day ?

NorioDS

Also... hehehe... yes I'm latching on to you ?

... Did you record the acoustic using an acoustic or one of the patches for acoustic-sounding stuff on an electric?

shaundtsl

Norio wrote: I did nothing but select 2 built-in tones from the library and play! Just brilliant!

So I take it you plugged your guitar directly into the BR600 with no pedals or amps before?

Garth-S

I'm glad to help out Norio ?

To answer your questions:

1) I usally program my own drum beats rather than use the preset patterns and arrangements. Once you get you head around creating patterns and arrangements its really easy. For the last recording I mic'd up my home made cajon drum and just used that along with the built in metronome to keep time.

2)I recorded 1 track at a time, but for my acoustic I used the combination of Mic and Guitar input to get the sound I was looking for. It actually worked really well. I just plugged my acoustic into the guitar input and used a dynamic mic (my cheapo Shure PG58) plugged into the Mic 1 input, then pushed the 'Mic' & 'Guitar' buttons at the same time to use the combination input. Once I had finished recording the acoustic I had the 'Mic' input recording on Track 1, and the 'Guitar' input recording on Track 2, and with a little panning and volume adjusting I got it sounding cool.

3)I recorded my vocal straight into the onboard mics. They are awesome!

It's amazing what you can do with this little device once you understand how it works.

NorioDS

shaundtsl wrote: So I take it you plugged your guitar directly into the BR600 with no pedals or amps before?

100%. For a first recording I didn't want to mess around getting the sounds just how I like 'em, so I just plugged and played. Later I'd like to try mic'ing up one of my acoustics but that's for the much later future when I have a mic ?

shaundtsl

Norio wrote:
shaundtsl wrote: So I take it you plugged your guitar directly into the BR600 with no pedals or amps before?
100%. For a first recording I didn't want to mess around getting the sounds just how I like 'em, so I just plugged and played. Later I'd like to try mic'ing up one of my acoustics but that's for the much later future when I have a mic ?

Cool, thats what I do too.

Looking forward to giving it a listen.

NorioDS

I definitely think it's important to do a lot of recording as the next step in my growth as a guitarist. I'm hoping that after my billionth recording, I'll know a lot more about who I am as a musician, what styles I enjoy playing and how I get the sounds I like most. One extra nice thing about plugging and playing is you get to focus more on the music and less on the technical aspects of getting your sound, or mic'ing up right, or sound-proofing, or or or or... ?

NorioDS

Garth Strydom wrote: I'm glad to help out Norio ?

Thank you!

Garth Strydom wrote: 1) I usally program my own drum beats rather than use the preset patterns and arrangements. Once you get you head around creating patterns and arrangements its really easy. For the last recording I mic'd up my home made cajon drum and just used that along with the built in metronome to keep time.

Eish ja but you're a genius and play like 1 meeeellion instruments ? Actually, I like the idea that this can sort of help me learn to play both bass and drums. Of course I'm not talking about technique but it will help me figure out how those parts fit into the rest of the song when I'm actual have to play them myself.

Garth Strydom wrote: 2)I recorded 1 track at a time, but for my acoustic I used the combination of Mic and Guitar input to get the sound I was looking for. It actually worked really well. I just plugged my acoustic into the guitar input and used a dynamic mic (my cheapo Shure PG58) plugged into the Mic 1 input, then pushed the 'Mic' & 'Guitar' buttons at the same time to use the combination input. Once I had finished recording the acoustic I had the 'Mic' input recording on Track 1, and the 'Guitar' input recording on Track 2, and with a little panning and volume adjusting I got it sounding cool.

Very cool! I must try that when I eventually get a mic.

Garth Strydom wrote: 3)I recorded my vocal straight into the onboard mics. They are awesome!

Serious?! You just switched it on and recorded? No external equipment? That's damned impressive! Did you use the BR600's built-in pitch correction for your vocals? If not, have you used them in the past? What did you think?

Garth Strydom wrote: It's amazing what you can do with this little device once you understand how it works.

Ja, I'm discovering that now! Definitely my best investment in guitar in a long time!