Help Me...The perfect guitar for Nu-Metal,Alternative and Rapcore styles?!

smiles_b · 2011-04-15T23:40:23+00:00

Hi people...I'm counting with u on this one! I like Limp Bizkit,Crazy Town,Insne Poetry,Linkin Park,RHCP,SOAD,RATM and etc. And I want to buy a guitar,so could you guys help me please?!I'm looking forward to buy a Ibanez GRG 270,I'm getting a Gio coz I'm a begginer and its good with my budget! So please wise people help me out! P.S. Help me out with the amp as well! Cheers

guidothepimmp

a baritone is a guitar with a longer scale neck... Ie. A neck slightly longer than you would find on a normal guitar scale.

Because of its construction and scale length, you can tune to lower keys without losing tuning stability.

With a trem, hose types of Trems are what you would call floating trems and they lock on the trem ad at the nut. This means that to change tuning, you would need to unlock the nut, tune, adjust the trem to float level, then lock it all up again.

Sounds simple? not really, if you tune 1 string on a floyd, it throws the balance out on the rest of the trem and you end up having to tune everything.. Just a mission if you change tuning a lot.

With a hardtail, its MUCH quicker and MUCH easier.

As for the SHOPS,I live in PTA dude..

smiles_b

guidothepimmp wrote a baritone is a guitar with a longer scale neck... Ie. A neck slightly longer than you would find on a normal guitar scale.

Because of its construction and scale length, you can tune to lower keys without losing tuning stability.

With a trem, hose types of Trems are what you would call floating trems and they lock on the trem ad at the nut. This means that to change tuning, you would need to unlock the nut, tune, adjust the trem to float level, then lock it all up again.

Sounds simple? not really, if you tune 1 string on a floyd, it throws the balance out on the rest of the trem and you end up having to tune everything.. Just a mission if you change tuning a lot.

With a hardtail, its MUCH quicker and MUCH easier.

As for the SHOPS,I live in PTA dude..

thaaaank u very much....Man,now I changed my mind bout trem! ?But I can still buy a trem effect right?!? :-\
Hehehe,so that's cool!I didn't check ur "Location"!

Kalcium

Billy wrote
Kalcium wrote Ok I read up on it and the line 6 seems like a good amp for what you want to do ? I'd say offer the guy R2500 for the guitar and amp maybe you'll get lucky and he'll take it, else R2800 is not so bad for a guitar and amp, you can pretend the guitar cost R1500 and the amp R1300 ?. The guitar has a flloyd rose trem though which will be a mission for you to learn to tune, but if you're willing to put in the effort that seems like a really good guitar for the price!

I'll try to negociate with him!hehehehe,for real I'll fool my mind.... ?
But lissn,if dis deal doesn't work out,should I go for a Ibanez GRG270?!
Since u know betta bout guitars and u seems to have Sherlock Holme's genes! ? jst google it and see wat it got,and if it's worth buying?!Please...

Seems like its very similar to the Cort that guy is selling ? Also has the tricky tremolo...How much is that gio going for at the mo?

smiles_b

Kal it's about R2800-3000... :-\

guidothepimmp

Billy,

Honestly, you should go for what you like, bt seriously I wouldnt buy a GIO for that kind of money. There arebetter guitars on sale even on this forum for less.

You can pick up a GIO for half of that and then Id say it is worth it. But not at R2800. For that price you can get the RG series by ibanez which s a "better" range than the GIO and comes with etter quality trems and hardware..

doc-phil

What is this thing 'nu-metal' and 'rapcore' that you speak of? I thought it died at the turn of the century. ?

Vintage-Vibe

You need to decide:

6 string detuned or 7 string ?

fixed bridge or trem ? (tremolo will allow some of those Borland-esque dramatic tricks)

You definitely need: 2 x HB pickups

22 or 24 frets

Medium to high output pickups

Space on scratchplate/body cavities for a killswitch etc

VV

smiles_b

Vintage Vibe wrote You need to decide:

6 string detuned or 7 string ?

fixed bridge or trem ? (tremolo will allow some of those Borland-esque dramatic tricks)

You definitely need: 2 x HB pickups

22 or 24 frets

Medium to high output pickups

Space on scratchplate/body cavities for a killswitch etc

VV

6 strings,I'd to have trem but it will gimme lots of work!
thank u man!Wat do u think about Epiphone Les Paul ultra for my genre?!

BMU

Ok just to throw a spanner in the works here. When you're starting out, you don't need to decide anything. Just get a guitar and start playing it, any guitar you like and fits your budget. Make sure it's a guitar you like, that's the only important thing. Cos if you hate it you won't play it.

Any guitar with humbucking picukps can do metal. The amps you mentioned are both great. Trems can be blocked, so get one and see if you like it. Or not. It really doesn't matter that much. Scale length and all those other subtleties matter hardly anything at all when you're starting out.

Best is the enemy of good. Just start.

smiles_b

BMU wrote Ok just to throw a spanner in the works here. When you're starting out, you don't need to decide anything. Just get a guitar and start playing it, any guitar you like and fits your budget. Make sure it's a guitar you like, that's the only important thing. Cos if you hate it you won't play it.

Any guitar with humbucking picukps can do metal. The amps you mentioned are both great. Trems can be blocked, so get one and see if you like it. Or not. It really doesn't matter that much. Scale length and all those other subtleties matter hardly anything at all when you're starting out.

Best is the enemy of good. Just start.

Yeah,that's a sure thing...But can I blockthe trem manually at home,or gotta take it to a shop and stuff?!?

Malkav

Billy wrote But can I blockthe trem manually at home,or gotta take it to a shop and stuff?!?

You can do it with pieces of wood, business cards, 9v batteries - I've seen people block them with pretty much anything they can find that'll fit.

doc-phil

I would get a fixed bridge if I were you.. As has already been said above, a trem kinda restricts you in terms of changing your guitars tuning (you can change tunings, but its a flipping hack).

The way I started playing guitar was just playing to my favourite band's tracks, and if you're wanting to play metal.. the tunings bands use will vary from standard, to drop D, to drop C and maybe even further. I reckon you will be frustrated no end not being able to easily change tunings, especially since the bands you mention all use different tunings. Unless you're desperate to pull off some Dragonforce divebombs etc, just get a fixed bridge. It'll be cheaper and will save you a lot of hassle. For me, the cons of having a trem far outweigh the pros.

ZarK

Get your hands on something like a Cort X5 (hardtail) and a Roland Cube 30X. (All second hand.) You'll need nothing more for a very long time. Even the pickups in the X5 is more than usable and won't need to be upgraded for a long time, if ever...

Remember that tone starts with your fingers, not the guitar or the amp -although they enhance your tone either negatively or positively... I picked up an X5 for ridiculous money a while back and she blows me away each time I play on her. The Roland Cube range is probably the most reliable smaller amps that I've ever used. They can produce a wide variety of tones up to and including very high gain Rectifier tones. I've had a number of Cubes over the years and they've never let me down.

I'm an outright Ibanez fan although I own and like a wide range of guitar makes. I've never been a Cort fan and only recently discovered how much quality they offer for your money. I've subsequently bought 4 second-hand Corts over the last few months. I now prefer my Corts to their Ibanez counter parts unless the Ibanez is an older Japanese model or from the Prestige range and up from there... Then it's a whole different ballgame...

I wish you all the best in finding 'your' axe and amp. Exciting times... ?

smiles_b

doc-phil wrote I would get a fixed bridge if I were you.. As has already been said above, a trem kinda restricts you in terms of changing your guitars tuning (you can change tunings, but its a flipping hack).

The way I started playing guitar was just playing to my favourite band's tracks, and if you're wanting to play metal.. the tunings bands use will vary from standard, to drop D, to drop C and maybe even further. I reckon you will be frustrated no end not being able to easily change tunings, especially since the bands you mention all use different tunings. Unless you're desperate to pull off some Dragonforce divebombs etc, just get a fixed bridge. It'll be cheaper and will save you a lot of hassle. For me, the cons of having a trem far outweigh the pros.

Yeah,I've changed my mind about Floyd shit Rose!
Nah man,I'm not into all thiswhammy bar thing's!So it's ok with me!
Thanks for the help!

BMU

Chad Adam Browne wrote
Billy wrote But can I blockthe trem manually at home,or gotta take it to a shop and stuff?!?
You can do it with pieces of wood, business cards, 9v batteries - I've seen people block them with pretty much anything they can find that'll fit.

This is untrue. The only correct way to do it is with a sawn-off paintbrush handle. ?

smiles_b

BMU wrote
Chad Adam Browne wrote
Billy wrote But can I blockthe trem manually at home,or gotta take it to a shop and stuff?!?
You can do it with pieces of wood, business cards, 9v batteries - I've seen people block them with pretty much anything they can find that'll fit.
This is untrue. The only correct way to do it is with a sawn-off paintbrush handle. ?

HOw?!I ddnt get it!!

Kalcium

Billy wrote
BMU wrote
Chad Adam Browne wrote
Billy wrote But can I blockthe trem manually at home,or gotta take it to a shop and stuff?!?
You can do it with pieces of wood, business cards, 9v batteries - I've seen people block them with pretty much anything they can find that'll fit.
This is untrue. The only correct way to do it is with a sawn-off paintbrush handle. ?
HOw?!I ddnt get it!!

http://pierreott.tripod.com/blocking.html

smiles_b

Yo thx Kal,you even left me without questions!hehe ?

Kalcium

Billy wrote Yo thx Kal,you even left me without questions!hehe ?

lol no problem ? I know what its like when people tell you something which they assume is so simple that you understand but you actually don't...haha ?

ZarK

Billy

I replied to all your PM's.

I hope you can get your hands on something like a Cube 30X and a Cort X-5. This combo won't limit you for a very long time imo and offer everything you need+. I play my X-5 with confidence alongside my R30k+ guitars... If you get 2 Boss FS-5U footswitches for the amp at a later stage, you'll also be able to switch between clean and dirty channels on the go as well as effects on and off. Then you'll have all you need to focus on your playing instead of gear. Work up to making your playing through this setup sound phenomenal before even considering any upgrades and additions. Develop the tone your fingers create instead of chasing 'the' sound you hear in your head by getting more gear because it just doesn't work that way round. I've wasted countless $ by placing the cart in front of the horse -if you know what I mean...

All of the best!

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