Recommend a decent beginner's accoustic, purdy please!

costafonix

Tonedef wrote Slowly getting there! My neck and back issues put paid to two weeks' worth of graft on the house, and a similar amount of axe practise. ☹

I finished all the wall rinoliting and kak this weekend though, next weekend we can gooi the first lick of paint, then its just the laminate flooring, skirtings and electrical odznenz.

so what you saying in not so many words then is that you aint gonna enter this months competition?? :? ?

Hey, if Norman does get to your neck of the woods, try out his Tanglewood, its a really mean sounding guitar.

Norman86

CostaFonix wrote Hey, if Norman does get to your neck of the woods, try out his Tanglewood, its a really mean sounding guitar.

? Fanks!!

Btw... if you want to spend more, for something with a built in pickup and cutaway... you could buy Joels Tanglewood thats in the Classifieds section now!!

I would, but i dont need another acoustic! i just want the cutaway though! it looks nice and makes the higher registers easier to play!!

Squonk

Tonedef wrote Hi gang,

I have come to the realization that my two electrics offer way too much distraction for me to learn to play properly. I am forever fiddling around with fx and shit while neglecting the basics. I cant even chord properly yet!

I reckon the 'purity of purpose' of an accoustic is what the doctor ordered. Something cheap but good to get me started. Steel strings and maybe a thinner neck to mimic the electrics. Ultimately I am an electric man but I need something to work the basics without getting distracted.

Ta!

The best thing to do is to lock the GT6 away and play the electric clean, this way you can hear exactly where you are at.

All this mistakes, bum notes etc will be amplified and resounding in your ear, no chorus and delay or distortion to hide behind.

This is what I did about a year back, improved my electric playing hugely.

But dont let this stop you getting an acoustic ?

Tonedef

Thanks for the offer Normo, I will let you know! ? Costa, I have been itching like a racehorse with a burr in its bit to get my piece down, I will really try this month, the compo theme be damned! Squonkus, that is a good suggestion, I tried it last night and you are 100% kirrect! Gawd I sound awful! I've been making the mistake of using my delay as a timing device instead of my metro - NOT the best idea, it turns out! :-[

singemonkey

Just remember, your electrics are acoustic guitars too. They're just not very loud. For a lot of practise, I don't plug in at all. In fact that's one reason why I'm vaguely considering getting one of those little modeling practise amps - to make it easier to get started. But really, getting good with guitar is all about self-discipline. While that may mean different things to different people (I cannot rock Arjun's practise schedule as much as I'd love to), no piece of gear can sort that out.

Bob-Dubery

Well yes... the not very loud acoustic has it's charms too.

I have an electric mostly for practising. It's loud enough that I can hear well enough with the TV on - doesn't seem to bother Mrs X-rated too much, but an acoustic can.

last night I was playing along with the band on "Dancing With the Stars". Lots of fun.

There's no perfect solution (which is why you NEED all those guitars).

There's those Yamaha practice guitars (almost silent, but not quiet) that you can get, but it was much cheaper to buy a Cort strat clone. OK... the yammy has a little headphone amp built in as well, but I could buy a separate amp and still have loads of money left over.

Kalcium

Squonk wrote
The best thing to do is to lock the GT6 away and play the electric clean, this way you can hear exactly where you are at.

All this mistakes, bum notes etc will be amplified and resounding in your ear, no chorus and delay or distortion to hide behind.

This is what I did about a year back, improved my electric playing hugely.

But dont let this stop you getting an acoustic ?

I found the exact opposite thing! I used to play unplugged quite a bit when i was just practising simply cause when ur looking at notes trying to figure out a song theres really no need for the notes to be amplified cause what you're playing isn't musical for much of the learning. But I found when I plug in I can hear all the mistakes amplified and clearly, which makes me play the same lick over and over till i can clearly hear im playing it correctly, often this had made me realise I have to play it slower an work my way up to the speed i thought i could play it at. Of course adding all sorts of effects will make the mistakes less obvious perhaps, but if you just amplify the guitar it becomes a lot clearer ?

@Singe, Arjuns practise schedule was designed for AI robots from the future ?

@Bob those vox amplugs are little headphone amps at about R450 or so, not sure how they sounds though, but a pretty cheap option, im sure its much cheaper than buying a guitar with it built in as you say ?

Squonk

Kalcium wrote
Squonk wrote
The best thing to do is to lock the GT6 away and play the electric clean, this way you can hear exactly where you are at.

All this mistakes, bum notes etc will be amplified and resounding in your ear, no chorus and delay or distortion to hide behind.

This is what I did about a year back, improved my electric playing hugely.

But dont let this stop you getting an acoustic ?
I found the exact opposite thing! I used to play unplugged quite a bit when i was just practising simply cause when ur looking at notes trying to figure out a song theres really no need for the notes to be amplified cause what you're playing isn't musical for much of the learning. But I found when I plug in I can hear all the mistakes amplified and clearly, which makes me play the same lick over and over till i can clearly hear im playing it correctly, often this had made me realise I have to play it slower an work my way up to the speed i thought i could play it at. Of course adding all sorts of effects will make the mistakes less obvious perhaps, but if you just amplify the guitar it becomes a lot clearer ?

I think you read my post wrong I said CLEAN not unplugged, Bob mentioned unplugged ?

Norman86

one thing you gotta keep in mind, Tonedef doesn't have an amp...
he uses amp sim's through the gt6, along with the various effects he noodles with!
So he should actually just switch the effects off if anything!

But an acoustic is always a nice to have for what you cant carry your electric around, or plug in etc etc etc!!

slyd

I find it easy when I want to try an idea, or riff, to just grab the acoustic and play. No plugging-in, switching or anything. It's very handy 8)

Kalcium

Squonk wrote
Kalcium wrote
Squonk wrote
The best thing to do is to lock the GT6 away and play the electric clean, this way you can hear exactly where you are at.

All this mistakes, bum notes etc will be amplified and resounding in your ear, no chorus and delay or distortion to hide behind.

This is what I did about a year back, improved my electric playing hugely.

But dont let this stop you getting an acoustic ?
I found the exact opposite thing! I used to play unplugged quite a bit when i was just practising simply cause when ur looking at notes trying to figure out a song theres really no need for the notes to be amplified cause what you're playing isn't musical for much of the learning. But I found when I plug in I can hear all the mistakes amplified and clearly, which makes me play the same lick over and over till i can clearly hear im playing it correctly, often this had made me realise I have to play it slower an work my way up to the speed i thought i could play it at. Of course adding all sorts of effects will make the mistakes less obvious perhaps, but if you just amplify the guitar it becomes a lot clearer ?

I think you read my post wrong I said CLEAN not unplugged, Bob mentioned unplugged ?

My bad, you're correct ? all the unplugged talk made me read it incorrectly...?
But ya as Norman says, switch effects on the GT off and just use a GT amp sim on its on as a clean sound.

vic

Tonedef....you do not need an acoustic......you just have a mild GAS attack 8) .....c'mon admit it ?

Norman86

Hahaha.. Everyone needs at least one acoustic Vic ?
Even if he might have a bout of GAS!!

vic

Norman86 wrote Hahaha.. Everyone needs at least one acoustic Vic ?
Even if he might have a bout of GAS!!

LOL ?

Tonedef

? I outgassed on a lekka big external hdd Ive been eyeing instead, and Im following Squonks advice and it is helping. I can only play in short 15min sessions before I have to rest my neck anyway, so focus isnt too hard to maintain.

arjunmenon

Kalcium wrote @Singe, Arjuns practise schedule was designed for AI robots from the future ?

:roflmao: As long as i get to program those robots to kick Will Smith's @$$, i'm down with that

Squonk wrote The best thing to do is to lock the GT6 away and play the electric clean, this way you can hear exactly where you are at.All this mistakes, bum notes etc will be amplified and resounding in your ear, no chorus and delay or distortion to hide behind.
This is what I did about a year back, improved my electric playing hugely.

Excellent advice.
I also agree with Singe's idea of playing the guitar unplugged. In a way you're hearing what you're playing without really hearing it, plus i find it a great way to develop the inner ear.

Getting an acoustic is not bad idea at all. For the first 3 years of my guitar life i owned a cheap @$$ one with really bad action which really didn't help me with the widdlee-wee stuff. What it did do though, is force me to learn a whole bunch of chords and focus of rhythm.
After grafting on that acoustic for 3 years, i found it a breeze when i moved on to playing an electric.

Kalcium

Arjun Menon wrote
Kalcium wrote @Singe, Arjuns practise schedule was designed for AI robots from the future ?
:roflmao: As long as i get to program those robots to kick Will Smith's @$$, i'm down with that

So they're gonna play guitar AND kick Will Smith's @$$ ? Now THATS something I'd like to see ? Are they gonna smash the guitars on him too? ?

arjunmenon

Kalcium wrote
Arjun Menon wrote
Kalcium wrote @Singe, Arjuns practise schedule was designed for AI robots from the future ?
:roflmao: As long as i get to program those robots to kick Will Smith's @$$, i'm down with that

So they're gonna play guitar AND kick Will Smith's @$$ ? Now THATS something I'd like to see ? Are they gonna smash the guitars on him too? ?

Yup, can be arranged ? No smashing guitars though (sacrilege!), instead we're going to have 4x12s dropped on his head one by one.
While i'm at it, i'm going to program them to decapitate his daughter and his younger son with rusty 11 gauge strings.
Should be fun ?

Norman86

Arjun, you dont whip your head back and forth?? ?

?

lindsmuse

Any recommendations for beginner guitarists with fingers like Shrek? It's so difficult ...

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