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Made by maxvagabond on reddit. Pretty cool for beginners:

    Cool idea, would be better done in circular form like the notes...

    I wonder if he's not onto something there? Like a hybrid between TAB and Staff?
      Donovan Banks wrote: Cool idea, would be better done in circular form like the notes...

      I wonder if he's not onto something there? Like a hybrid between TAB and Staff?
      You bet. If you colour coded the strings, you could put a number on each note. Kind of like reading sheet with training wheels.
        Isn't TAB the reading sheet with training wheels?
          Nah. I meant reading sheet, with training wheels. Tab is tab, and I remember when I was starting out I didn't pay any attention to the sheet since it meant sheet to me.
            Very clever. I wish I had that in the bad old days before PC's internet, OLGA and Ultimate Guitar. I used to struggle to sight read for guitar, but when I took up piano sight reading was easy because standard notation translates intuitively to the keyboard but not the guitar. To put it another way reading standard notation for guitar is as loony as reading tablature for piano.
              a month later
              I am really trying to understand this ... I taught myself to read up to the Third position, comfortable with the musical staff. From my understanding when you need to re-use the staff for further up the neck, Fifth position, Seventh position etc, with all the notes exactly where they are EGBDF, (treble clef) and they want to denote that you are playing the notes further up the neck, they actually have to number the notes by finger number so you can see what position you are playing and therefore where on the neck ... , and you slide/move into different positions with that little minus sign next to the numbers. Therefore the chart kind of confuses something I find confusing enough! Have I missed something? I taught myself from Frederick Noad's Solo Guitar Playing.
                Excuse my utter ignorance...but can someone explain that thing to me...I never had an interest in sheet music AT ALL. I wanted to but it seemed WAY to complicated...or am I daft???? ???
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                  I think you've got a very good grasp of it already Lindsmuse,
                  Therefore the chart kind of confuses something I find confusing enough! Have I missed something? I taught myself from Frederick Noad's Solo Guitar Playing.
                  All the chart is doing is showing where the notes repeat on different strings and how many overlaps there are. The same note on the different strings is still the same frequency and thus only receives one place on the stave. So the fifth open string "A" is the same frequency as the fifth fret of the sixth string and receives the same place on the stave.

                  The way you are reading notation is correct it's just that this chart simplified what you already know, which is that you place first finger on fret of the position you are playing in, thus you deduce which position you are in by the finger number they put next to the note (if you're lucky).
                    Thanks Viccy. When I heard I was doing it right I stopped panicking and had another look at the chart! Ok it's pretty neat. I think that another chart would be in order though to explain how guitar, and I spose other stringed instruments depict notation beyond the fourth fret. It would be quite tricky ...
                    The way you are reading notation is correct it's just that this chart simplified what you already know, which is that you place first finger on fret of the position you are playing in, thus you deduce which position you are in by the finger number they put next to the note (if you're lucky).

                    Please don't tell me they get it wrong! ☹
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                      Please don't tell me they get it wrong
                      No, sometimes they just give you more guess work and leave it up to you to find the most practical position. An example of the most accommodating notation is they give a Roman numeral for the position that you are in, recommended fingering and even which string you will be playing the note on. The least accommodating they give you NOTHING, except the note. I'm glad you're feeling more confidant now!
                        I'm interested Jackflash - can't get it to open in anything I have at the moment ...It can be PDF or JPG ... I can't actually even see what it is in the link you have there. Thanks.
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