Very upset

Hammeron · 2011-02-27T21:29:08+00:00

I'm very upset that there are no Maloiks in the Guitar Forum banner...... >☹

Bob-Dubery

Tonedef wrote
X-rated Bob wrote The use of the "reverse safe" in rock music predates Ronnie James Dio and, indeed, predates heavy metal.
Maybe he slammed his hand in the starboard pressure hatch?

Don't be dof!

It's another embedded secret sign to tell us that Paul is dead. I mean DUH dude!

Really... some people! You've got to lift up the tail and show them.

Seventhson

X-rated Bob wrote
Hammeron wrote @@@@@@@@Mika, I cannot quite make out if you are a headbanger or not, but questioning the fact that the Maloik is not the single most definitive representation of Hard Rock and Heavy Metal ever created is, quite frankly, frikin' ridiculous.
I'm with Mika. Hard Rock, Heavy Metal, any other genre you care to name was, at one time, about the music. These days too many of them are about what uniform you want to wear. The counter-culture has become the thing that it rebelled against (which is what I think generally happens) and it's time to look for the counter-counter-culture.

I'm wary about any scene that places too much reliance on how you dress, what gestures you make etc. Well... not wary, but I think they're pretty stifling.

I have to agree with you there. For me all I will wear on stage would be jeans and a shirt? Nothing fancy. I don't even have long hair ???

Norman86

Seventhson wrote I have to agree with you there. For me all I will wear on stage would be jeans and a shirt? Nothing fancy. I don't even have long hair ???

You dont? oh! then who's the girl in your avatar?? ?

Squonk

Seventhson wrote
I have to agree with you there. For me all I will wear on stage would be jeans and a shirt? Nothing fancy. I don't even have long hair ???

You gotta have hair, what are you going to shake on stage?

Tonedef

X-rated Bob wrote It's another embedded secret sign to tell us that Paul is dead. I mean DUH dude!

Really... some people! You've got to lift up the tail and show them.

No maaan, you got it all wrong. He was making donkey-ears behind Paul's over-inflated head.

Norman86

Tonedef wrote Maloiks in the banner are dandy by me. But then I INSIST, in the interests of egalitarianism, that we get a matching silhouette of "YMCA", that gesture that represents the BEHEMOTH that is wedding receptions and community hall frikkin' sokkie!

If you're gonna add the YMCA, then you need to add the funky chicken too!!! ?

Tonedef

Norman86 wrote you need to add the funky chicken too!!! ?

You can't do that! That's what the Maloiks are for, bro. They ward off evil! ?

Norman86

Then why the hell joo want the YMCA in there??? Crikey!

Seventhson

Squonk wrote
Seventhson wrote
I have to agree with you there. For me all I will wear on stage would be jeans and a shirt? Nothing fancy. I don't even have long hair ???
You gotta have hair, what are you going to shake on stage?

My beard?

Bob-Dubery

Norman86 wrote Then why the hell joo want the YMCA in there??? Crikey!

It's a place where you can get yourself cleaned, you can have a good meal and, furthermore, you can do whatever you feel.

Tonedef

Norman86 wrote Then why the hell joo want the YMCA in there??? Crikey!

To balance the Maloik. Adding "the chicken" in as well would tip the yin-yang balance and the world would descend into total chaos.

Tonedef

X-rated Bob wrote
Norman86 wrote Then why the hell joo want the YMCA in there??? Crikey!
It's a place where you can get yourself cleaned, you can have a good meal and, furthermore, you can do whatever you feel.

LOL, I missed this post! Quality! :roflmao:

Norman86

Agreed! That was a good comeback! ? lol!

singemonkey

Just want to comment on Bob saying it's become a uniform thing. As a long time buddy of a big metal fan, I never really got the whole thing (besides liking Black Sabbath, Motorhead, and a couple of early Metallica albums) until I saw Metal: A Headbanger's Journey. That really opened my eyes.

I think that, to followers of metal, it touches something inside them that nothing else touches. It expresses something that other music doesn't. So it's not all about the music. The typical story seems to be that people discover metal and suddenly feel at home. And it's very often a life-long thing. I don't think it's a superficial "uniform" thing. I think it's a really big deal for the people who're into it and helps them make sense of their lives - without having to hold any particularly kooky, reality defying, views. And it's not political either (like punks vs. skinheads) because you'll find the whole political spectrum among metalheads.

I think as long as Anglo-American suburban living persists, you're going to have metal. Hell. I was gobsmacked to see that, as this kind of culture arises in the developed world, so follows metal. Indian metalheads in Indian cities with long hair and piercings and the lot was a big surprise to me ??? But it follows the massive growth of the middle class in India - and the liberalisation of their parents who don't immediately send them to the army at first sight of a Slayer t-shirt ?.

I think metal is the solution to a particular problem. Not a fad.

Bob-Dubery

singemonkey wrote I think that, to followers of metal, it touches something inside them that nothing else touches. It expresses something that other music doesn't. So it's not all about the music. The typical story seems to be that people discover metal and suddenly feel at home. And it's very often a life-long thing. I don't think it's a superficial "uniform" thing. I think it's a really big deal for the people who're into it and helps them make sense of their lives - without having to hold any particularly kooky, reality defying, views. And it's not political either (like punks vs. skinheads) because you'll find the whole political spectrum among metalheads.

Well... I have heard reports of ? REPUBLICANS ? ? ? ? at Grateful Dead gigs.

MIKA-the-better-one

WOw, this thread went super crazy, now its all ymca and stuff......

due to the fact i have never given "the horns" at a show, it does often leave me in a bit of a situation at big concerts where you thrust your hand into the air in a sort of fist/ peace sign........ It gets very confusing on what to do.....

But in general, the only guys I see giving horns these days are jocks in there jetta who have grown long hair and play super bad "cradle of filth"....... thats not rock n roll, nor is that sign anymore.... I dont think, Jimmy page, Jimi hendrix, kurt cobain, chris cornell, eddie vedder, jeff buckley, or any of the real godfathers of modern rock would be caught dead using "the horns"

Now also when concerned with metal, there is a specific scene of metal that does the horns, and funny enough the more modern evolving metal scene does not do it. Bands like Torche, Baroness, High on Fire, Botch, Converge.... and many more, have moved away from that whole very dated attitude..... to me it seems more real now which is something, if i was a metalhead I would embrace

Bob-Dubery

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_of_the_horns

Lennon (sorry Mika) was apparently up to in '67. Of course he'd been reading... how did you guess... Crowley at the time.

Then, and this really surprised me at any event, it became a big deal in Parliament/Funkadelic/Bootsy Collins circles. For those of you think there's some weird stuff around NOW, apparently you had to make the sign of the horns to gain admission into the mothership. Well, George Clinton always did have an active imagination.

Maybe Heavy Metal is more sensible...

Seventhson

singemonkey wrote Just want to comment on Bob saying it's become a uniform thing. As a long time buddy of a big metal fan, I never really got the whole thing (besides liking Black Sabbath, Motorhead, and a couple of early Metallica albums) until I saw Metal: A Headbanger's Journey. That really opened my eyes.

I think that, to followers of metal, it touches something inside them that nothing else touches. It expresses something that other music doesn't. So it's not all about the music. The typical story seems to be that people discover metal and suddenly feel at home. And it's very often a life-long thing. I don't think it's a superficial "uniform" thing. I think it's a really big deal for the people who're into it and helps them make sense of their lives - without having to hold any particularly kooky, reality defying, views. And it's not political either (like punks vs. skinheads) because you'll find the whole political spectrum among metalheads.

I think as long as Anglo-American suburban living persists, you're going to have metal. Hell. I was gobsmacked to see that, as this kind of culture arises in the developed world, so follows metal. Indian metalheads in Indian cities with long hair and piercings and the lot was a big surprise to me ??? But it follows the massive growth of the middle class in India - and the liberalisation of their parents who don't immediately send them to the army at first sight of a Slayer t-shirt ?.

I think metal is the solution to a particular problem. Not a fad.

Maybe I am abit of a uniform guy then? All I wear are metal shirts?
??? ??? ???

Tonedef

X-rated Bob wrote Well... I have heard reports of ? REPUBLICANS ? ? ? ? at Grateful Dead gigs.

GOPheads? "Let the motherf*^%^r burn."

From what I've seen in doccies, heavy metal is a US army barracks staple. Keeps the bloodlust flowing maybe? ???

MIKA-the-better-one

hmmm, lennon and bootsy collins....... now I know.... ?

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