Manfred-Klose
I tried all of them weeping demon,morleys and yesterday i went to kaydubs home and tried out his origanal crybaby.
The crybaby has to much funk for me.
The only one i havent tried was the V847.
I'm looking for a smooth wah, one with settings.
Dont want something that over powers the gain(i already have enough of that)
IS the V847 harsh sounding or smooth?
Manfred-Klose
How much did you pay for your V847? if i may ask.
kayDUB
It's actually the Crybaby Classic (GCB95) i think...
It is pretty bright in the toe down position.
I've never really tried another wah, so can't really give a comparison.
Now I've just gotta learn how to use the thing properly! ?
Mr-M
V847A = Smooth.
The GCB-95 is the regular Crybaby. The GCB-95F (F for Fasel Inductor) is the Crybaby Classic. Also has true-bypass. The sticker on the front of the wah will say Crybaby Classic along with "GBC-95F CB Classic with Fasel" on the bottom plate.
The regular CB is much brighter than the CB Classic. If you find it very bright it's probably a normal CB 'cos the Classic is a lot tamer on the brightness compared to a normal CB. If you paid less than R1500 for it, it's probably not a Classic.
Manfred-Klose
kaydub
ok cool, wasn't shure which wah it was.
That maxon of yours must be mean sounding, i see it is modded with an extra potensiometer, what is that for?
kayDUB
Its not the one with the fasel inductor, aka not a classic then!
Manfred: you should've kicked it on while you were there! 8)
Its the SD9, distortion, not really overdrive. it has the JRC4558 ic, the "tubescreamer chip" ???
the extra pot is a mid control so you can scoop or boost the mids. mod done by analogman, it was modded when I got it!
its quite a bright pedal, so i keep the tone dial down at under 1/4. Its quite noisy, but at the moment i think thats cos I've gotta fix the wiring on my board.
I attached a clip for you (hope it works!). approx settings: drive 75%, level 25%, tone 25%, mids just over half.
This is the sd9 layered over OD1 (used more like a boost/eq - drive 0, level 60%) rythym and lead piece.
Nevermind, it didn't work! attachment too big. Do I have to upload it on box or something?
Manfred-Klose
Its quite noisy
...if it isn't noisy, its not a distortion pedal 8)
Do I have to upload it on box or something?
Go and look at the site feedback catogory, there is a thread that explains how to do it.
But its ok, just wanted to know what the extra potentiometer was for, now i know, thanks.
Wer should have a jam some day, i love the delay pedal, its awesome.
Martyr
i agree with the earlier post that the hellbabe is a useless wah,i've tried one out before...i've used the classic dunlop crybaby wah and i quite liked it...but i still prefer the crybaby wah from hell(dime signature)
Manfred-Klose
agree with the earlier post that the hellbabe is a useless wah
I owned one for 2 days and took it back to music mate, complaining on how crap this product is, and they gave me a full refund!!!
Martyr
I owned one for 2 days and took it back to music mate, complaining on how crap this product is, and they gave me a full refund!!!
a few years back my parents wanted to get me a wah for my birthday and the guy at the shop told 'em that the hellbabe is better than the crybaby ???
so they came home and told me and i was stunned,so i went in to demo it and well umm ja,kakest wah i've ever used,the ME-50 wah is even better than that ?
toastyrat
I recently bought a crybaby second hand (good deal) just to use the enclosure. I have tried out quite a few wah pedals and came
to the conclusion that a custom wah would be the best. So i'm going to build this one:
http://www.buildyourownclone.com/wah.html
It's basically the most versatile wah ever. It has pots and trimmers for almost every resistor on the board, which means whatever you want
you can get. Once it's done i'll let ya'll know what it's like, but i reckon poison!
JoeyBones
I'm still waiting for my Wah Probe ☹
It's probably in Nairobi by now ...
DNC
I use a Morley Power wah the Mark tremonti sig model
This pedal is engade when you step on it and has a +- 2 second delay when you step of it.. it also has a bost knob up to 20db... I use it at about 1/3. The kinda of stuff is very helpfull for live playing!!!
Negative aspsct is, it very noisy when useing a power supply, you need some sort of hum cancelling power supply. So I just run it with a battery.
Sound is very good... listen to mark tremonti.... the uses this thing alot!!! the new alter brigde stuff!!!
Malkav
out of interest the history is that Vox released the original wah that the crybaby was modelled on and now Rocktron are recreating it exactly as a silver trim model...
I think the 535Q cry baby has a nice sound and is very throaty, Joe Satriani uses the 535Q model but note he tries about 9 out in different venues and picks the one for the night that sounds the best.
Also the Zakk Wylde is basically a 535Q (last one I saw retailed for R900) with the Q set on full, which you can't alter but who'd want to? it's quite cheap sounds amazing and is extremely transparent so if you're looking for a full throaty sounding wah all the time then I recommend it ?
If you have the money however the Crybaby from hell (Dimebag Darrel Model) is amazing not only can you set the EQ but you can also adjust the stiffness of the pedal with a special hex wrench they supply with it. Also basically a modified 535Q.
Vintage-Vibe
If I'm not mistaken the first wah was released by JEN (Italian)
The Dime wah is more versatile (fine tune trim pot for Q notch) HOWEVER - try one against a Zakk Wylde - you'd be surprised which 1 comes out tops
Satch also edges towards an RMC Wizard wah - but yeah depends on the room which one he chooses (the joy of PRO budgets !)
The Ibanez Weeping Demon may LOOK wrong, but I've heard them sound amazing in a mix !
Malkav
lol, sorry didn't mean that Vox made the first Wah meant that they were the template for the Crybaby...?
Also I agree on the Zakk Wylde in terms of sound I far prefered it ? and I hate the Crybaby from hells paintjob...Camo is just too pretentious to me and I see no reason to fork out more money for something noone but you will really see. Almost as pointless as the chrome crybaby 535Q
Gearhead
My 2c:
The original Dunlop Crybaby not only has no true bypass, it needs one as well. A lot of stompbox pedals do not have true bypass (most BOSS pedals don't) but don't need it. They buffer your signal both in the on and off position so the tone doesn't really change. The Crybaby (and a lot of classic pedals) does not switch the circuitry off entirely, so the next stage 'sees' not only your guitar but also some output components of the pedal, causing the so-called "tone suck".
So do not complain about the on/off switch on your Crybaby, you want to have a separate bypass anyway. A sustain pedal in front of the wah generally is a good idea.
Bob-Dubery
Mr M wrote:
I've owned the Original Crybaby, Ibanez Weeping Demon, the old V847 and now the Crybaby Classic.
Crybaby Original - Very sharp/ bright in the toe-down position of the sweep.
An interesting way to use a wah is to NOT sweep. You can position the pedal at a certain point in it's travel and leave it there to modify the tone. I guess this is kind of like an inverted notch filter (?). Frank Zappa fans will have heard this effect as FZ used it quite a lot at one time - certainly in the Mid 70s. He didn't always sweep the pedal, just left in a certain position. Very interesting effect.
I know that this effect is used on the Roxy And Elsewhere album, but I haven't listened to that for some years and don't have a copy handy and so can't suggest which cuts he uses it on.
AlanRatcliffe
Zappa used that all the time - it's everywhere on his recordings. In the 70's he started having filters built into his guitars so he could get the exact tone he wanted at the flip of a switch.
Another great example of the fixed wah tone is Knopfler's Money for Nothing (and Industrial Disease from the album Love Over Gold).
Heath
gary moore also used the fixed wah position on a lot of his recording aswell as slash
