Alan Ratcliffe wrote:
Thanks Chad, but you're missing the point
No I'm not, I merely interjected with a different side of the coin. I never said that the locking tuner & good bridge system wasn't a great way to go, I just brought up another facet of the debate and supplied a run down of it ?
Manfred Klose wrote:
Whats your views on this type of setup? i am thinking of this option for my next guitar, and would maby want to include something like this.
I gave my view hence point not missed ?
MikeM wrote:
I find Floyds to sacrifice a lot of body of a guitars tone, not to mention being major set up work. Maybe if I was a famous pro I could throw money at the problem but I never have issues currently so I am not changing.
I find it funny that if you go to Suhr's website he says that he finds the Gotoh floyds to have a very good tone (
http://www.suhrguitars.com/bridges.aspx#Floyd), and by technicality a guitar like an RG has no tone sacrificed because they were built around having a floyd, not to say that an identical RG with a fixed bridge wouldn't have better tone, sustain etc but it's not what they were originally designed for :'( They sound great with floyds cause their bodies are nice and big, unlike a strat which isn't designed with that kind of routing in mind. Cheapely made floyds will always sound like poo no matter what guitar you put em in which is why I recommended the Gotoh stuff, I'm not saying you're guilty of this but I know a lot of people who've made the tone complaint without ever having played on anything better than a licensed floyd (and yes I know the Gotohs technically are licensed to but you get what I mean - the ones they put on guitars under the R7k price range) which is of course inferior.
The setup work is really negligible, I've done hundreds of Floyds and to this day I still don't understand what people complain about. I'd rather do a floyd then a vintage trem anyday. I think in the long run floyds have actually saved me a massive amount of money, then again I know how to set my own up - the techs around here charging R600 for a floyd setup are just crazy, I've done tons and I don't think that the price some people want to charge is warranted. The biggest plus is that if you give your string enough slack and you break it at the bridge all you gotta do is roll a little out the machinehead, slot back in and hey wow I didn't have to go buy a new one ?
Alan Ratcliffe wrote:
They also have their (many and serious) drawbacks, which is why they are mostly used by those for whom tuning stability is first priority.
I realise this, that is why you need a Tremol-No cause it solves most of those - this is why my post started with Floyd & Tremol-No because on their own they are finicky bitches.
Alan Ratcliffe wrote:
As to the having to tune up occasionally - I'm gonna quote your fave, Jimi Hendrix: "Only cowboys stay in tune". And he could finish the song without changing guitars if he broke a string. ?
Let's not even get me started on my irrational hatred of that man ?
