makepeace
so i've recently acquiered a copy of guitar rig 4. i've installed it an all and messed around with some of the amps and effects (without my guitar plugged in) and its functionality looks amazing.
i now plug my guitar (direct) into the green line in on my pc. realtek audio pops up with a screen saying i've plugged something into line in, and everything is hunky dory. i pluck some strings without opening guitar rig 4 and everything works fine, clean sound coming out of my monitors. i start up guitar rig and setup an amp and some effects and start playing, and nothing has happened to the sound. the input vol bar at the top stays at zero, as does the output :-\
i then downloaded asio4all, as this worked for me a while back when i messed around with fruitloops. i go into guitar rig and open audio and midi settings and theres my asio driver. i open up the config and check whats going on on the WDM device list.. the rear audio output status is "active", so i presume thats right. then i check the status of the rear input (where i've plugged my guitar in) and it says (with a yellow and red female logo instead of the play sign):
Status: Beyond Logic!
-disable system sounds in control panel!
-deactivate unused outputs/inputs!
-audio drivers too old/new?
-computers hate you!
anyone have any ideas? the guitar is going into sound card, and out of the speakers, but not into guitar rig. is this because i'm not running through an interface/guitar link usb cable of sorts? or should i be able to rout the guitar directly into my sound card and into guitar rig?
MikeM
File > Audio and MIDI settings > Device or Driver ?
Try fiddling with that.
makepeace
might be getting somewhere.. i plugged the guitar into the mic in instead of the line in, without changing any input settings in the audio and midi settings, and its now making an impression on guitar rig. the sound thats coming out is absolutely horrible though. i'm guessing its because the mic in is meant for a mic, not a guitar.
from the above, it looks like there is no selectable input for my line in. how do i go about getting that sorted? is it most likely a driver thing?
MikeM
Go to control panel and hunt around, you prob have the gain boost on the mic channel ?
DonovanB
had this issue recently. Is it a legit version, a demo or a cracked? (don't answer that...)
if it is a demo or cracked it might stop working after a while in order to get you to buy it.
if it is legit, I dunno....
MikeM
I use the trial version, in fact I have used 2 trial versions and no issues whatsoever.
I'm sure he's using a trial version ?
Don just edit that out your post ? No need for the C word to be on the forum. Heheh
makepeace
nah i'm pretty sure its not that.. i'm sure its got something to do with the way i'm inputting the guitar. i'm reinstalling my sound card drivers so i'll see what comes of it..
makepeace
no dice.. think i'll have to get me a usb interface..
AlanRatcliffe
Covered this a few times before. Basically your audio interface is not suitable - you need the right tools for the job. You get three common types of inputs: line, mic and instrument. Complicating this is the fact that you get two types of line level: domestic (sometimes called hi-fi) and pro, which are made for hugely different signal levels (hifi is -10dB, Pro is +4dB - note that every 3dB is double the power). Instrument levels are about -20dB and mic are about -40dB.
#1 - Guitar is instrument level, and a line input does not have enough gain for it
#2 - Guitars are high impedance, mics are low, so while they have more than enough gain, frequency response and dynamics suffer badly
#3 - Domestic soundcards like Realtek cause more problems than they are worth when using proper audio apps. They are also typically low quality especially the microphone input.
One solution is to get a preamp or mixer to boost the guitar signal to go into the line in. The other is get a DI box to convert the impedance is to low and plug into the mic in. Both will still sound low quality (especially using the mic input with a DI), due to the soundcard.
So ideally you need an audio interface with an instrument input or a specially designed instrument interface. Otherwise get yourself an amp with a speaker simulated output and forget the software.
makepeace
ah, thanks a lot for clearing that up.. i had a suspicion it was something like that.
