EZ Drummer and eq-ing individual hits?

doc-phil · 2010-09-22T12:16:38+00:00

I want to start eq-ing the drum tracks in my pieces, but I can't seem to figure out how to apply different eq's to individual tracks in my DAW.. I create my...

EZ Drummer and eq-ing individual hits?

AlanRatcliffe

EZD uses it's internal mixer which has only one stereo output, so you can't usually. BMU is correct.

There are three ways around this:

1. Buy Superior Drummer - which has a much more advanced mixer with multiple outs and it's own drum oriented insert effects and presets. This is best as it's simple and you get mic bleed and other things that make it more realistic.

2. Mute all but one mic in the EZD mixer and bounce down to an audio track. Do this with each until you have a track for each mic. Then you can process each audio track separately (or grouped) using Your DAW's features. You also get bleed with this method as you're not muting the individual drums, but rather the mics. A bit unwieldy to set up and any edits to your source MIDI after bouncing mean rebouncing them all again, but can be well worth it.

3. Use multiple instances of EZD (Usually three one for kick, one for snare, one for the rest). You need to split your MIDI source track into individual instruments and assign to the different instances. Heavy on system resources though.

doc-phil

@ Alan -

1. Definitely out of the question on my budget ?

2. This sounds the most promising to me - but what exactly do you mean by 'bouncing' down to an audio track? Do you mean muting all but one mic.. rendering the track (say, kick only) to wav.. then doing the same for each mic until you have a whole bunch of rendered wav's that you can put on separate tracks and then eq them separately?

3. This was the only option that I could think of. In my projects I normally run 5 or 6 instances of guitar rig at the same time and it doesn't seem to use too much cpu power.. not sure how running mulitple EZDrummers will affect it.

Thanks for the pointers! ?

BMU

Thx Alan. That's what I thought you told me in the Reaper thread.

doc - Go with no. 3 if you can. That's what I do as well. If you decide to change the sequencing (who can ever stop fiddling with that? ? ) you're going to hate life using option no. 2.

evolucian

there's a little switch on the ezdrummer mixer interface where u can have all 8 channels seperate... so u could eq them individually then as its playing (well i think u can... i usually do step 2 in Alan's philosophy and its a tiresome process but worth it... but i'll say it again... LLLLLEEEEENNNNGGGGTTTHHHYYYY... muting each bastard of a track just to get a wav file, .... yep, it sux ass, and not the nice kind either)

But hey... see if u can eq them individually as its playing or whatever... cos the switch is stereo/8 channels... as soon as you flip the switch the screen caters for those 8 anyway... blowing up each channel should reveal the eq and voila... or alternatively, jump to the mixer and there instead, its all there on its own channel... its digital magicka.... oooooooooooooh

AlanRatcliffe

Do you mean muting all but one mic.. rendering the track (say, kick only) to wav.. then doing the same for each mic until you have a whole bunch of rendered wav's that you can put on separate tracks and then eq them separately?

Exactly.

In my projects I normally run 5 or 6 instances of guitar rig at the same time and it doesn't seem to use too much cpu power.. not sure how running mulitple EZDrummers will affect it.

If your PC can handle GR, it should be OK with EZD.

evolucian wrote: there's a little switch on the ezdrummer mixer interface where u can have all 8 channels seperate...

Really? I haven't seen that. Let me check...

doc-phil

evolucian wrote: there's a little switch on the ezdrummer mixer interface where u can have all 8 channels seperate... so u could eq them individually then as its playing (well i think u can... i usually do step 2 in Alan's philosophy and its a tiresome process but worth it... but i'll say it again... LLLLLEEEEENNNNGGGGTTTHHHYYYY... muting each bastard of a track just to get a wav file, .... yep, it sux ass, and not the nice kind either)

If you right click on 'Trk1' under the output bar in the mixer you can select multichannel and it assigns each mic to a different channel.. so that's a step in the right direction. But now all I hear is the kick.. how do I listen to the other channels.. I tried copying track 1 to track 2 but it also just plays the kick.

AlanRatcliffe

@Evo - thanks a mil. Got it sorted now. Somehow I've always missed that feature completely. Never too old to learn. Eh? ?

doc-phil wrote: If you right click on 'Trk1' under the output bar in the mixer you can select multichannel and it assigns each mic to a different channel.. so that's a step in the right direction. But now all I hear is the kick.. how do I listen to the other channels.. I tried copying track 1 to track 2 but it also just plays the kick.

You have to create a new track for each output you use and assign the input of each track to a different output from EZD.

doc-phil

Alan Ratcliffe wrote:
doc-phil wrote: If you right click on 'Trk1' under the output bar in the mixer you can select multichannel and it assigns each mic to a different channel.. so that's a step in the right direction. But now all I hear is the kick.. how do I listen to the other channels.. I tried copying track 1 to track 2 but it also just plays the kick.
You have to create a new track for each output you use and assign the input of each track to a different output from EZD.

I can't figure out how to do that in Tracktion... I found what looks like a good tutorial on how to do it in reaper. So I'm gonna download that and give it a go.

Here's the link to the tutorial for anyone interested: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=4684

BMU

Hmmm ok so EZD can do multi-channel out. I just learnt the same thing on another forum. Interesting.

I'm pretty sure I could whip that up in Cubase, given a manual and and hour (or three LOL)

Renesongs

I've been using EZD for a while and never noticed the multichannel feature. Recently I have been testing Addictive Drums in which the multichannel feature is more obvious in the interface. Overall I am enjoying AD more than EZD. I feel that it sounds more authentic and I find it easier to get the exact sound I'm looking for [/hijack]

evolucian

i think my mouse slipped and clicked at the same time when i stumbled onto it... but for now i'll just pretend i read the manual and point fingers ?