That pretty much says it about guitars.....

zohn · 2010-06-23T06:52:13+00:00

I don't care what you play !! ..........because it isn't a contest! If your guitar(s) cost more than mine, I don't need to justify that mine are just as good, or tell you that yours couldn't possibly be "worth it". If my guitar(s) are more expensive than yours, I don't need to convince you that they're "better", they just need to be worth it to me. If you like brand X and I like brand Y, that's really OK. If you can't hear a difference between an inexpensive guitar and a very expensive guitar I'll assume you are being honest, please allow that someone else is being honest when they say they can hear a difference. I won't assume what's right for me is right for you. I'll give my opinion when asked, but I won't give opinions about instruments I haven't actually played. So yes, the music is more important than the instrument, one man's grail is another's "not so much", and too many people worry far too much about the other guy/gal. Shamelessly lifted from a post on the Larrivee Forum....

Ray

OK, why I mentioned Hendrix and SRV is because I have been under the impression that they pretty much knew nothing about theory really. Or, how shall I say, orthodox theory. First of all in all pics that I see of Hendrix he's got a right handed guitar but he plays it left. So that must take some doing applying standard fretboard theory when your strings are the other way round. But I suppose you can do it hey. Then for SRV about halfway thru Texas Flood there is a bit of talking and he says he cant read music or anything and everything must just feel right.

I dont know that it matters so much becasue sure as hell if you know the theory it makes things logical a bit.

Renesongs

It is possible to learn theory or "best musical practice" through listening to others I don't know but I would imagine that neither Hendrix or SRV would be able to write down or quantify the theory they had learned but what they do adheres to quite complex blues principals. I saw an interview where SRV was explaining the different approaches to playing Hideaway he showed the Freddie King version then the Clapton version this tells me that study went into his music maybe not formally but through "the road" school.

On the other hand (there are different fingers) you can study and practice for years and still sound as vibrant and creative as a tax audit like or Malmsteen. I think as a serious musician you should grasp every opportunity to learn more about your craft and it is stupid to discount formal study as irrelevant however I know many people that studied music at a tertiary level but no longer play music. So formal study is not a backstage pass to fame and fortune.

Wizard

Knowing the theory can't hurt ... so why not?

Bob-Dubery

ezietsman wrote Mathematics is not a human invention. The whole of our current mathematical knowledge can be derived from simple numbers using logic only. Think of it as a very complex system describing how numbers (and there are many kinds of numbers) work together. Mathematical notation however, is a human invention. I'm pretty sure an advanced alien civilization will also know about calculus and algebra and how to find the slope of a parabola but their notation may (probably) look very different to ours.

Carl Sagan once wrote that he gets lots of letters from people who claim to be in touch with aliens. The letters usually go on to say that the aliens are really nice and, of course, much smarter than us. There's usually a PS along the lines of "I know you think this is a wind up, but I'm for real and to show that things are as I say they are please send me a question to pass onto my friends."

He usually asked for a proof for Fermat's last theorem.

He never got a reply.

vic

X-rated Bob wrote
ezietsman wrote Mathematics is not a human invention. The whole of our current mathematical knowledge can be derived from simple numbers using logic only. Think of it as a very complex system describing how numbers (and there are many kinds of numbers) work together. Mathematical notation however, is a human invention. I'm pretty sure an advanced alien civilization will also know about calculus and algebra and how to find the slope of a parabola but their notation may (probably) look very different to ours.
Carl Sagan once wrote that he gets lots of letters from people who claim to be in touch with aliens. The letters usually go on to say that the aliens are really nice and, of course, much smarter than us. There's usually a PS along the lines of "I know you think this is a wind up, but I'm for real and to show that things are as I say they are please send me a question to pass onto my friends."

He usually asked for a proof for Fermat's last theorem.He never got a reply.

That must have been prior to 1995....

singemonkey

vic wrote
That must have been prior to 1995....

Was just thinking the same thing. ?

His point though is sound. Since mathematics is clearly based on some inherent qualities (Mayans and Babylonians both uncovering similar properties despite never meeting, having different number systems, etc. is a clue), beings with superior knowledge and intellect (demonstrated by their mastery of interstellar travel) should reasonably be able to supply some unknowns to demonstrate the aforementioned.

They always fail to do so. Aliens are never able to demonstrate something to the abductee that is demonstrably true, and yet unknown to mathematicians or scientists.

vic

singemonkey wrote
vic wrote
That must have been prior to 1995....
Was just thinking the same thing. ?

His point though is sound. Since mathematics is clearly based on some inherent qualities (Mayans and Babylonians both uncovering similar properties despite never meeting, having different number systems, etc. is a clue), beings with superior knowledge and intellect (demonstrated by their mastery of interstellar travel) should reasonably be able to supply some unknowns to demonstrate the aforementioned.

They always fail to do so. Aliens are never able to demonstrate something to the abductee that is demonstrably true, and yet unknown to mathematicians or scientists.

Well SM, the last time I was abducted the Aliens actually showed me how they manage to cross our Galaxy at speeds 4c. They create wormholes by using anti-matter manufactured in the nose of the space vechile. At those speeds these beings actually become younger and younger.....very interesting indeed. ?
And in return I showed one of them the intro to House of the Rising Sun.... ?

singemonkey

vic wrote
singemonkey wrote
vic wrote
That must have been prior to 1995....
Was just thinking the same thing. ?

His point though is sound. Since mathematics is clearly based on some inherent qualities (Mayans and Babylonians both uncovering similar properties despite never meeting, having different number systems, etc. is a clue), beings with superior knowledge and intellect (demonstrated by their mastery of interstellar travel) should reasonably be able to supply some unknowns to demonstrate the aforementioned.

They always fail to do so. Aliens are never able to demonstrate something to the abductee that is demonstrably true, and yet unknown to mathematicians or scientists.
Well SM, the last time I was abducted the Aliens actually showed me how they manage to cross our Galaxy at speeds 4c. They create wormholes by using anti-matter manufactured in the nose of the space vechile. At those speeds these beings actually become younger and younger.....very interesting indeed. ?
And in return I showed one of them the intro to House of the Rising Sun.... ?

Cool. Send pictures from your Nobel prize ceremony ?

Bob-Dubery

singemonkey wrote They always fail to do so. Aliens are never able to demonstrate something to the abductee that is demonstrably true, and yet unknown to mathematicians or scientists.

Apparently they're quite good at dishing out useful advice such as "be nice to each other."

That, and sticking probes up all the bodily orifices.

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