Yngwie Malmsteen-Air on G...

mity88

Hey guys,upon checking this piece out i found that all the tabs i can find for this song have one section where u go to to the 22nd fret...hows this possible?the YJM sig strat only has 21 frets?wat do i do now?

AlanRatcliffe

Bend on the 21st.

...or buy a 22 fret neck ?

Bob-Dubery

mity88 wrote: Hey guys,upon checking this piece out i found that all the tabs i can find for this song have one section where u go to to the 22nd fret...hows this possible?the YJM sig strat only has 21 frets?wat do i do now?

Well unless it's the 1st string at the 22nd fret you'll find that note somewhere else on the neck.

Don't blame Malmsteeen unless it's his tab.

evolucian

is this from the G3 gig? Cos it was done on a nylon cutaway and I dont believe he went that high... he did use harmonics though... but yeah, what do i know, I'm not swedish

singemonkey

Yngwie's so fast and so technically accomplished... hell, maybe he created a virtual fret using some astonishing, impossible to duplicate technique ?

Malkav

I watched a video where he had a 24 fret red strat, in the video he explained that he just wanted to give it a try. From what I know a couple of the tracks he played in that era were on 24, I've also got a live DVD of his where it makes an appearance.

If you go on youtube you can find a tour of his studio where he displays a whole ton of vintage 50s,60s and 70s stratocasters and korina flying Vs etc, almost all of which are scalloped and equipped with his signature pickups (there goes all the vintage value ?).

Recently he switched from a signature Dimarzio pickup to a signature Seymour Duncan pickup, don't know if anyone cares but I find that interesting ?

Keira-WitherKay

? i never got the signature model thing............ why would any musician want a guitar that is set up to someone elses specs...... surely your own personal , handsize/reach/technique and style will dictate a different set of criteria for your perfect guitar .........

forget trying to sound like someone else rather create your own tone......... anyway who needs another malmsteen/hendrix/vai..........ect ect

find your own voice

evolucian

Keira... hypothetically... lets say Yamaha came to you and offered you your own signature line built to your specs... would you really say no?

I know I wouldn't say no... likelihood of it happening is rather bordering on nil for me. Malmsteens would be a bitch to play for me cos of the scalloped frets.... heavy hands with lots o space dont do well. Vai's is rather cool with handle et al. Paul Gilberts is a rather waste of wood. Satriani's on the other hand is beautiful and warm. Why anyone would change the pups on that is beyond me.

Steve Morsmytyd's is one i'd love to get my hands on... the pup config on that can hold infinite possibilities.

But I wouldn't say no... lol... i get to keep the prototype and the first few anyway... wood and steel would be a welcome note if that happens ?

BMU

mity88 wrote: Hey guys,upon checking this piece out i found that all the tabs i can find for this song have one section where u go to to the 22nd fret...hows this possible?the YJM sig strat only has 21 frets?wat do i do now?

So you own the Yngwie strat with scalloped fretboard? Cool! I'd love to try one of those. It's the only strat weird enough to interest me so far HAHA.

Post pics if you can? Pleeeeease??

Re. sig models - owning someone's sig model doesn't make you sound like them?? I thought it was well established that 'tone is in the fingers'. I wish owning Vai and Loomis' sig models could make me sound like them, IF ONLY LOL!!!

Malkav

BMU wrote:
mity88 wrote: Hey guys,upon checking this piece out i found that all the tabs i can find for this song have one section where u go to to the 22nd fret...hows this possible?the YJM sig strat only has 21 frets?wat do i do now?
So you own the Yngwie strat with scalloped fretboard? Cool! I'd love to try one of those. It's the only strat weird enough to interest me so far HAHA.

I've tried one, and I have to admit I don't like scalloping at all - the malmsteens is particularly deep. Also the pickups sounded a bit thin...

Keira WitherKay wrote: ? i never got the signature model thing............ why would any musician want a guitar that is set up to someone elses specs...... surely your own personal , handsize/reach/technique and style will dictate a different set of criteria for your perfect guitar .........

Signature models are great, quite often they offer specs and options unavailable on the other models in a given brands range. Just as an example I like John Petrucci and I like his Music Man signature not because it's his but because his music has had such an effect on me that of course some of his style has rubbed off (not to say I'm anywhere near as amazing but what I mean is musically I'm now very into my prog-metal) Funny enough if you'd like to play prog metal his guitar would make a brilliant choice as the neck and pickup configuration etc lend itself to that style of music.

No other Music Man really has the same specs or the same sound and therefore if I ever wanted one I'd gravitate towards his, it would be what works best out of their line for me. The same goes with things like amps etc. I don't believe you should try to sound like your heros but signature models offer a lot of guidance as to what could make a good guitar to you, sometimes they are actually perfect for you. I think if a guitar is good it doesn't matter who's name is on the headstock - e.g I don't really like Eric Johnson much *ducks* but I swear if there were a stratocaster I'd want it would be his signature model.

The one thing i can't stand is when the signature model has a giant and obvious mark so that the whole world can easily see it's a signature, e.g the Neil Zaza Cort guitar - great guitar, great value for money, great big blue NZ on the fretboard which literally is the main reason they never sold. I've had tons of customers display interest in them and then settle on something worse just because of that darn fret marker.

Keira-WitherKay

evolucian wrote: Keira... hypothetically... lets say Yamaha came to you and offered you your own signature line built to your specs... would you really say no?

oh i'm not saying the signature ...or custom guitar for the artist is BAD ....NO NO NO you getting me wrong evo .. ? what i am saying sure if yamaha want to build me a signature guitar with my choice of neck width ect ect ...way cool ......way cool but my observation is why would anybody other than the artist buy it .......... cos their needs will be different ..cos true custom guitar are built for your hand size and width of fingers...... and hands like other things in people are "not created equal" heheeh

so yeah see my point now........ the custom build for an artist is cool for them . but i never get why people want to be clones of other artists.............. but yeah i'm learning to live with it ? ........ and yes i do believe you can be influenced by artists without copying them.....

of course unless you a tribute band........... but lets not go there

evolucian

Hehe, likewise... I'd jump at the opportunity. Then those wif long fingers like mine but shorter than Vai's could have an option of guitar tailored to that... although speaking of yamaha... the Rik Emmet one of yonks should probably still sound cool ?

But yeah Keira, I agree with the neck width and stuff... but if it fits my hands comfortably... then i'd get it... if it plays like crap with shitty kind of overtones... then nope, won't get it.

mity88

lol,the topic has gone way off my original question, but at least i got some answers, thanks guys, and for the record, I DONT HAVE A YJM SIG STRAT, i wish i did though...i was just asking because i didnt want screw the song up by going up the strings to get the same notes as the section using the 22 fret, ive messed around a bit and found a cool way to transition from the high notes down to lower notes higher on the strings, sounds good to me so im gonna stick with it...THANKS GUYS AND GALS!!!

singemonkey

Yeah, I'd happily let one of these companies build a signature guitar for me (fat, as you've said, chance). But I'm unlikely to buy someone else's signature unless it coincidentally happens to appeal to me. Which happened, coincidentally. I have barely listened to three Les Paul tunes in my life, but I have one of his "signature" guitars, and a Japanese copy of one as well. ?

In those days though, apparently, the artist's wishes were not taken that strongly into account. I think just about the only thing old Lester got his wish on was the colour, perhaps that crappy trapeze tail-piece, and later the colour of his "tuxedo" version - the Les Paul "Custom." Suits me. He had some zany ideas that don't appeal much.

Rescator

Talking about signature stuffs , look what I've done to my YJM strat ?(actually it was done by Andy) :
1. Removing the original paint and lacquering the natural Alder wood underneath .
2.Installing Fender locking tuners
3.Installing Callaham vintage bridge (narrower than original, to match the neck )
4.Installing Snake pick guard , just to match my cowboy boots 8)
Now ,this is "completely" another guitar , more in tune and more sustain ( from 3) , even more in tune (from 2) .

Anyway , I didn't bought it because of Yngwie ( I like him but I can not play him :? ) ,but because it was the only decent Fender in the store .
Also , it is amazing for (trying to ) playing Hendrix , Blackmoore and SRV kind of tunes .
One need a time to get used on those low output pups , but once in speed , they sound amazingly .
Cheers,
Rescator

BMU

Rescator: that is awesomness. Taking off the paint, niiiice very nice. Not sure about the snakeskin pickguard personally (lol) but if it works for you, cool! Great pics thanks!!!