aja
Remember (relatively) slow or very short voltage changes may not blow the fuse but will still damage equipment, much the same way computer power supplies die after exposure to many brownouts...
JoeyBones
aja wrote:
Remember (relatively) slow or very short voltage changes may not blow the fuse but will still damage equipment, much the same way computer power supplies die after exposure to many brownouts...
That's what my brother said and he was also very weary of daisy chaining too many pedals together.
JoeyBones
One more option, the gig rig generator :
http://www.thegigrig.com/acatalog/index.html
They have a solution for every type of pedal I have and it's pretty small. looks like a basic desktop power supply, so that worries me a bit. Any opinions?
JoeyBones
Ok, so after looking at a few more options, the CIOKS AC-10 comes out tops (Cheers all around !!)
Outlet 1-2: 9V DC / 100mA each
Outlet 3-4: 9 or 12V DC / 200mA each
Outlet 5-6: 9 and 12 or 15V DC / 600mA*
Outlet 7-8: 9 or 12V AC / 800mA*
Outlet 9-10: 9, 12 or 16V AC / 800mA
So the 1st four outlets should handle all of my low utilization 9v pedals easily.
5-6 will be used for the timefactor (Need to confirm if 600ma will be sufficient when using midi)
7-8 for the modfactor (Need to confirm if 600ma will be sufficient when using midi)
9-10 for the whammy 12VAC (When I eventually get one)
I just need to source a smaller power supply to run the Musicom (12V 400ma) and the T-REX Replica (12V +-110ma). Will run these two of the meanwell 12V for now.
Of course all of this is gonna have to wait till I do some clever math $$$$ ?
JoeyBones
Just when I thought I'd seen everything :
http://us.sanyo.com/Pedal-Juice
My brother and I have been working on something similar, but this is excellent for a small board or buy a few and power a bigger board. Not cheap, but I'd really like to here the difference between this and a power supply.
JoeyBones
If there's one lesson I've learned in life, it's "don't be afraid to ask questions, no matter how stupid they may seem".
I mailed Cioks to check what they had to say about the pedals I'm trying to power. Here's Paul Ciok's response :
Hi,
You've got quite many pedals and some of them need a lot of power and one is AC, so a rather complicated set-up. We haven't got any power supply which would e able to handle all this in one unit. I'd recommend one DC10 and one AC10 for your set-up to do it properly. The AC you'll need for the Whammy.
Please have a look below how I'd set it all up.
AC10
Whammy -9Vac 750mA, outlet 9
Musicom EFX MKII -12V 300, outlet 6 @ 12V
T-Rex Replica -12V 110, outlet 4 @ 12V
XDS 95 Receiver -9v 100, outlet 3 @ 9V
Tuner -9v 35, outlet 2
ISP Decimator -9v 35, outlet 1
DC10
Timefactor +9v 1200m the actual current draw is 300mA @ 12V and this voltage is approved by Eventide
Modfactor +9v 1200 same as Modfactor
one goes into outlet 8 and the other to outlet 10 on the DC10 @ 12V
Joyride -9v 100, outlet 6
PB1 -9v 40, outlet 5
the remaining 5 goes to outlets 1-4, where two of the pedals will be in parallel using the Split Flex.
Screamer Fuzz -9v 10
Keeley comp -9v 30
OD 820 -9v 19
Mojo Drive -9v 25
Carbon Copy -9v 26
Best regards,
Poul Ciok
_____________________________________
Just for your information Eventide has tested our DC10. Here are their
comments:
I was able to power four factor pedals from Cioks DC-10 with a VAC down to 100VAC with no ripple, and down to 98VAC before reset.
The DC-10 does get warm running four pedals but seems stable, I would say three is ideal especially if it is onstage and in the sun.
Tomorrow, I will run dScope test while doing the low-power test just to be sure.
Joe Walts - Eventide
Later I got this from Tony Agnello:
Hi Poul,
Joe's testing with Dscope went well. Congratulations on designing a fine product.
And one day later from Ray Maxwell, Vice President, Sales & Marketing:
Hi Poul,
I hope
JoeyBones
JoeyBones wrote:
One more option, the gig rig generator :
http://www.thegigrig.com/acatalog/index.html
They have a solution for every type of pedal I have and it's pretty small. looks like a basic desktop power supply, so that worries me a bit. Any opinions?
I've never quoted myself before ?
I'm going to perform one last test this weekend. I have a 2.2Ah battery at home. Gonna test running some of my 12V gear off it this weekend.
guitarboy2828
Instead of starting a new topic, will just reopen this one..
I'm needing a small power bank, just not sure where to look.
I have a vox wah, boss looper and about to get a tonebone classic. The first 2 are 9 volts, the tonebone is 15volts..
So.. What powerbank powers 9v and 15v? I've only ever seen 9, 12, 18? What am i missing?
AlanRatcliffe
Looks like you are limited to the original supply or a CIOKS:
Q: Why does the Tonebone require 15VDC to work?
A: Even though we are starving the tubes, we still need sufficient voltage to get the heater coils to work. The typical 9V supplies just do not have sufficient voltage to do the job.
Q: Are there any manufacturers that make multi-power supply bricks for Tonebones?
A: Yes; The Cioks
DC10 and
AC10 both have 15V outlets for Tonebone pedals.
Q: What happens if I run an 18V or high voltage to the Tonebone?
A: You will overheat the internal power supply circuitry and damage your Tonebone.
ActionArnie
Looked into powering a tonebone quite extensively myself, as Alan said, looks like the Cioks is the only option unfortunately.
kayDUB
FYI - I know Matta is listed as the official SA agent for CIOKS, but last I heard he wasn't bringing any in for a while.
I ordered one from guitareffectspedals.com a while back, guy was great - even though the order was delayed quite a bit, but I think this was more on CIOKS side. I ended up paying just under 2K.
