Thanks Graeme I think I may need his number......
They are indeed the spider frame 15" but as you can see from the pictures they will need some work done on the cones.
Another really odd thing is that one speaker is rated at 50watts 16ohm which is normal spec, then the other looks like it had an extra 0 stamped on it to read 500watts and someone stuck a round sticker with 8 printed on it over the 16 so it reads 8 ohm (check pics..) This looks like it was done a the factory because the extra 0 is actually stamped into the label (albeit in a different sized font) and the 8 is printed onto the sticker (not handwritten). Anyone have any info regarding this, they both came out of a Laney Bass 100 cab circa mid 60's.
Just learned as well that this model speaker were also used in the early VOX AC30 2X15.
here are the pics for ya'll