Gray
Will put up loads of stuff shortly
What happened Arjun? Where's the stuff posted? ?
arjunmenon
Sorry Gray, my apologies. Since i have way too much information on the subject (even after much revising and editing the info based on relevancy, i've still got loads). However, if you're interested, send me your e-mail address and i'll mail it to you. Thanks for understanding.
Cheers
Still_Missing
Sorry, I'm a little confused with this swell thing:
When exactly should I consider it "swollen?" It seems to me that the more I raise it, the more it "swells"
I'm a noob, yes I am ☹
FenderBender
Hi SM,
Just play the power chords while slowly increasing the level of the relevant channel up to the point where each chord starts sounding unpleasant or harsh to you and drop the level just under this. At gigs it helps to have someone stand in the main crowd area and listen for you. Play something clean and turn off major effects while equalising or you'll be at it all night ?
deanBailey
Okie dokie, with that being said, now take into account that live when they mike up your cab/combo, you really get some noob engineers that say (and I've heard/seen it many times) "No let me mic it up because I like the mic dead center because it's more present" in this case he's mistaking fizz for presence
no..incorrect. That's where you get fizz-bombs and listeners going home with temporary tinnitus. If you're sure you know what you're doing insist on micing up the cab/combo yourself.
The first post was a good starting point but once the mics been placed and the engineer is anal about his mic postion actually walk off stage after the engineer has processed your guitar (but still plugged in) and play so that you can hear your tone through the FOH. Chances are it sounds over fizzy and really strong in the high mids, that's where you'd actually have to compensate by turning down on your amp and you lose your precious settings. Unless the AE is co-operative and you discuss what you want out of your amp that you're not getting.
But really, (I'm just gonna be honest) Leave the 'distortion' pedals at home.
whusmaname
This is an excellent piece of advice... I'm wondering if it'd work with my setup... (Guitar thru Zoom-FX pedal into Bass-amp)
The reason I mention my setup is because I've found that it's so much clearer in general to any guitar-amp I've ever used... aside from the ones I can't afford (yet, that is)
Has anyone else tried this method, or am I just that weird?
deanBailey
Last I saw the Converge guitarist plays through an 8x10 bass cab but that's it, imho not a good idea.
Maybe you were doing something wrong with the guitar amp, If you find it not clear enough ???
which zoom pedal are you using?
whusmaname
The Zoom 707. Why?
deanBailey
Gee wrote:
The Zoom 707.
Oooooh
Do you use the zoom distortion into a clean channel?
I'm pretty positive it might be the zoom that's killing your clarity
whusmaname
I've tried clean out of the Zoom into the OD of the amp as well as OD out of the Zoom into clean amp, and I'm not fussed by either way. Sometimes I choose one over the other, because it's the sound I'm going for, and sometimes I change to the other option because I can, but I still prefer the clarity of the bass amp, and the simplicity of it as well (The bass amp doesn't give me the choice of clean vs OD...)
Iow: Less choices to have to make.
deanBailey
As long as you're happy.
Unorthodox methods sometimes work, but the level of unorthodox in this situation is leaving me a little confused. ??? hehe
whusmaname
The level of confusion in this conversation is making me wanna go even more unorthodox. IE: Ever tried playing harmonics with an E-bow?
AlanRatcliffe
Does the Zoom have amp and speaker simulations/modelling? If so, it makes perfect sense as a bass amp is much more "hi-fi" than a guitar amp. I'd only use the OD in front of the Zoom though.
I have to agree with Dean though, in that the Zooms generally have pretty nasty sounding AD/DA converters that tend to degrade the sound quality regardless of whatever else you do.
whusmaname
Unless you're actually going for the degraded sound...
AlanRatcliffe
LOL! Yeah there's that.
So... you're looking for a degraded sound, but with clarity? Umm...
whusmaname
At times, yes (But not all the time, though.)
FenderBender
Fully customisable precision THD lol!
Norman86
Bass.
Put your guitar pick up in neck position, and strum a power chord on the low E and A string. Start turning the dial on the up up, until you hear a "swell" in sound. Leave the dail at the point that you hear the swell (you may have to wiggle the dial to locate the point)
Mid.
Put your guitar switch in the middle position. Strum a powerchord on the middle strings (D and G), start wiggling the mid dial, until you find the point where the sound "swells", leave it there.
Treble
Guitar switch at bridge position. Strum a powerchord on the B and E (thinnest) strings. Turn the treble dial until you hear a swell in sound. Leave it there.
Hi gais!!! ?
So sorry to necro this thread...
What would the power chords be that they're referring to to set the amp up?
Thanks!! ?
Gearhead
Lower power chord: fret the A string two frets up from whatever you play on the E string
Mid power chord: same fret on D and G strings
High power chord: same frets on B and E, but this does not work so well power wise unless you use high gain
Gearhead
Or try repeating in a shuffle
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with maybe in another loop
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...if you get the idea :-\
