2012?

Jaen-Pierre-Dowling · 2009-11-19T01:10:02+00:00

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2012?

TomCat

Talking about Pork Pies.......I've not had one of those for a long time........ :-\

chris77

A lot of folks with pretty relaxed ideas on how they will handle pending doom... Me? I will be dumfounded and speechless at first before going into a tearfull cry like a baby bout of nostalgic depression, probably ending with a trip to the mountains for a better view and a place to jump off should the need arise for it. So if its today, tomorow, 2012 or anytime in my lifetime, Iam also hoping for a quick finish rather than a CNN broadcast telling us all the date and time. Can you seriously imagine the anarchy if people knew, not speculated, but really knew the clock was to run out in a few months time?

Bob-Dubery

chris77 wrote: Can you seriously imagine the anarchy if people knew, not speculated, but really knew the clock was to run out in a few months time?

Ever Read Nevil Shute's book On The Beach. I suppose it might be seen as a bit dated or a bit of inaccurate prophecy now (that seems to have happened to several Shute books), but one interesting theme running through the book is the one of why we should keep an orderly society going when we know the end is nigh (as the characters in this book did).

One way to interpret this aspect of the book that perhaps instead of what we do being a reflection of what we are, what we ARE is influenced by what we DO. For most of the book the characters in the story (set in Australia, post nuclear war and with the deadly fall out clouds slowly but surely approaching) keep everything together, but towards the end they start throwing all kinds of cautions to the wind and their society starts degrading very quickly.

Sean

X-rated Bob wrote:
I headed up a Y2k remediation project for a JSE-listed group in '98 and '99 and there WAS a problem..................

There was a real problem - but it got dealt with.............

Hey Bob, maybe you could fix this 2012 thing for us as well ?

Attila

yaaa..... we'er having a braai on the Saturday 22nd.... everyone's invited

Bob-Dubery

TomCat wrote: Talking about Pork Pies.......I've not had one of those for a long time........ :-\

English cuisine at it's best. Cold pies and warm beer.

singemonkey

The Mayans, like the Egyptians, had some nice tricks for their time. But nothing known about them (really known - different to the ways that Erik von Danniken "knows") suggests that they had any powers or technology that comes close to anything in the 18th, let alone 21st centuries. Unfortunately, claims to the contrary make use of wishful thinking, casuistrous arguments, and downright fraud.

If you ask people who have spent their lifetimes studying these cultures, instead of making money writing books with dubious supernatural claims about them, you will find that they are not concerned about 2012.

These were human beings like us. Like us, they made many admirable discoveries about the real world. Like us, they believed in all kinds of things without a shred of evidence.

We have enough to worry us with our own baseless superstitions involving the "threat" of vaccination, HIV being a conspiracy to kill Africans and make pharmaceutical profits, the world being controlled by the Elders of Zion (tm), fake moon landings, Obama's citizenship, 9/11 being planned by George Bush, etc., etc.. I don't think we should be worrying ourselves with the superstitions of cultures long gone as well.

And as many here have pointed out, a few of us have lived through the various "ancient predictions" of the end of the world on more than one occasion. I won't be selling my guitars and standing on the mountaintop in my pyjamas. The ones who do are going to be sad little boys and girls the next day.

WantzChas

This is the same as the "Uhuru" and "nag van die lang messe" kak. It's publicity started by minority groups who don't have the balls to challenge what ever. So they think out random stuff to make us beleive we have to form a rebellion now, otherwise it's over with us. Nah, stuff like this has happened in the past and order has always been restored someway or another.

Jack-Flash-Jr

My biggest concern is that the dialogue in the movie won't stand up to the special effects.

Ray

Y'all sound like a bunch of kids in a movie house, each trying to make the most noise so that his tjommies think he's not shittin hisself.

Maybe not so silly. The world order is changing. Pretty quick as well.

[deleted]

Ray wrote: Y'all sound like a bunch of kids in a movie house, each trying to make the most noise so that his tjommies think he's not shittin hisself.

Maybe not so silly. The world order is changing. Pretty quick as well.

As it has done many, many times before. Which was the point we were making, rather than bluster for its own sake.

singemonkey

@Stratisfear

We better hope we don't end up in the slave pods next to these guys. Boy will our faces be red ?

Ray wrote: Y'all sound like a bunch of kids in a movie house, each trying to make the most noise so that his tjommies think he's not shittin hisself.

Maybe not so silly. The world order is changing. Pretty quick as well.

Anihilation by nuclear weapons? That was something worth shittin' ourselves about. The magic predictions of a stone age people who couldn't prevent their kids dying from water-borne diseases or work out what lightning was? Not so much? ?

[deleted]

singemonkey wrote: @Stratisfear

We better hope we don't end up in the slave pods next to these guys. Boy will our faces be red ?

? :?

Ja, ja - but by that stage they won't be able to gloat with the feeding tubes down their throats. So, no worries... Although, if we're to be battery cells, do we at least get to choose which appliance?

singemonkey

Stratisfear wrote: ? :?

Ja, ja - but by that stage they won't be able to gloat with the feeding tubes down their throats. So, no worries... Although, if we're to be battery cells, do we at least get to choose which appliance?

I vote supplying power to their 30 story guitar amps. Although I suspect our robot masters will choose transistors over valves ☹

"G: The humans are dead
B: We used poisonous gasses
G: The humans are dead
B: And we poisoned their asses..."

- The Flight Of The Conchords

dee

Jack Flash Jr wrote: My biggest concern is that the dialogue in the movie won't stand up to the special effects.

Haha, Really? Last time I checked Roland Emmerich was not known for his character's impressive story telling.

The reviews however do say it is a really pretty movie. Lots of eye candy on the special effects side.

deanBailey

...If you've seen the movie, the entire world migrates to Cape Town. So I'll just wait at home while the rest of the human population is on it's way.

singemonkey

deanBailey wrote: ...If you've seen the movie, the entire world migrates to Cape Town. So I'll just wait at home while the rest of the human population is on it's way.

Dude. That sucks. They'll ruin it for the rest of us. They can go live on an island of floating garbage or something. ?

Renesongs

I think that ever since the day we fell from the trees and started chattering to each other there has been a band of nutters proclaiming to be able to defy the laws of time and space and see the future. And what do they see, not the building of vast civilizations, breakthroughs in medical science, abolition of slavery, space travel, the communications revolution, greater human freedom. They see death and destruction. These my friends are failed human beings that need to get a life in all senses of the phrase.

I am convinced that in time the our earth will come to an end so will our solar system and even our galaxy and possibly the whole universe but not because the prophesies of some nut job.

Wizard

Renesongs wrote: I am convinced that in time the our earth will come to an end so will our solar system and even our galaxy and possibly the whole universe but not because the prophesies of some nut job.

+1
And to state the obvious, the prediction success rate of the "end-is-nigh" group so far is 0%
(that's even worse than weather men and economists ...)

Ray

Maybe not 2012 but it's close. I dont think before 2012 but wont be long after. I dont know when but I'll post here when I hear something.