Overdrive/Distortion - Need one.. suggestions?

nick · 2009-09-26T14:05:01+00:00

I have a Tubescreamer, the TS10 model though and I have a cheapy Behringer Ultra Metal. So far: 1) TS10, too little too trebley 2) Boss DS-1, also too trebley, could take paint off the walls (single coil strat) 3) Behringer UM100, fine for Metallica or early Green Day, terrible for Pearl Jam etc. 4) Boss MT-2, too digital and not warm enough Other suggestions, want to try out a Rat, went to MusicMate/Bothners but neither had. Looking for the 90s alternative sound, Pearl Jam, early Smashing Pumpkins, Foo Fighters etc.

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Great pedal that nick.

Have you tried it out with your own rig?

They are such top quality units, you shouldn't have any problems with it. So it's up to you where you buy it from. Just remember if you order from the US, just insure the things. Well Worth it.. I have brought in a Zvex Wah Probe, no problems. . . You can't get them here anyway.

nick

Brentcgp wrote Great pedal that nick.

Have you tried it out with your own rig?

They are such top quality units, you shouldn't have any problems with it. So it's up to you where you buy it from. Just remember if you order from the US, just insure the things. Well Worth it.. I have brought in a Zvex Wah Probe, no problems. . . You can't get them here anyway.

No havent tried it on my own rig but made sure Ive played it on single coils, same when I bought the fuzz ?

Impulsed and bought it online.. R1014 shipped to ZA. Insured post etc ?

Mr-M

Awesome! I thinkyou're gonna love it! It has an internal brightness trim pot (like a master presence control on an amp) to help you dial it in to the sound of your rig, so I'm sure you'll have no trouble getting it to sound how you want it to.

Let us know what you think when you get it.

nick

Thanks, hoping it'll be here before Graemestock2 ?

Any idea how much Im going to get raped for import duties or whatever its called?

Mr-M

The most it's ever been for me (and that was on a R3000 pedal) was R150. Should be significantly less than that.

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nick wrote Thanks, hoping it'll be here before Graemestock2 ?

Any idea how much Im going to get raped for import duties or whatever its called?

No duties on anything that has to do with musical instruments. You will pay in VAT on the rand value of the invoice on the day it arrives here. I rekon R130 at worse ?

nick

Brentcgp wrote
nick wrote Thanks, hoping it'll be here before Graemestock2 ?

Any idea how much Im going to get raped for import duties or whatever its called?
No duties on anything that has to do with musical instruments. You will pay in VAT on the rand value of the invoice on the day it arrives here. I rekon R130 at worse ?

Sweet, thanks 8)

nick

Mr M wrote The most it's ever been for me (and that was on a R3000 pedal) was R150. Should be significantly less than that.

Thanks 8)

shadow1

nick wrote
Brentcgp wrote Great pedal that nick.

Have you tried it out with your own rig?

They are such top quality units, you shouldn't have any problems with it. So it's up to you where you buy it from. Just remember if you order from the US, just insure the things. Well Worth it.. I have brought in a Zvex Wah Probe, no problems. . . You can't get them here anyway.
No havent tried it on my own rig but made sure Ive played it on single coils, same when I bought the fuzz ?

Impulsed and bought it online.. R1014 shipped to ZA. Insured post etc ?

What website did you order it from?

nick

shadow1 wrote
nick wrote
Brentcgp wrote Great pedal that nick.

Have you tried it out with your own rig?

They are such top quality units, you shouldn't have any problems with it. So it's up to you where you buy it from. Just remember if you order from the US, just insure the things. Well Worth it.. I have brought in a Zvex Wah Probe, no problems. . . You can't get them here anyway.
No havent tried it on my own rig but made sure Ive played it on single coils, same when I bought the fuzz ?

Impulsed and bought it online.. R1014 shipped to ZA. Insured post etc ?

What website did you order it from?

http://www.guitareffectspedals.com 8)

Bob-Dubery

Brentcgp wrote No duties on anything that has to do with musical instruments. You will pay in VAT on the rand value of the invoice on the day it arrives here. I rekon R130 at worse ?

I'm interested in the duties and VAT matter because I have vague plans of having a guitar delivered from the UK or Ireland. I've heard various stories about how the VAT is calculated and of other fees that get added. Often when I buy stuff from Amazon there is a "disbursement fee" that is added - but this may be added by the courier rather than by customs.

Other folks have mentioned the adding of a duty of 10% of the value of the courier fees and then further VAT on top of that.

Some of this may just be people hoping to sell you a guitar pumping the price up and blaming it on the government.

So what's the deal?

ed

Also do you pay vat on the price that you see on the website you order, or is vat paid on the total cost (price+shipping)?

nick

While I wait the 3 weeks or whatever for the pedal to arrive I need to re-arrange the pedalboard. Its currently:

{Boss TU-2} -> {Ibanez TS10} -> {Big Muff Pi} -> {Boss BF2 Flanger} -> {Ibanez CS9 Chorus}

Need to fit the Crunch Box in, how would you string them? ?

CDee

Firstly take the TU-2 out of the loop. It's a great tuner but it sucks tone(Made a big difference when I removed mine from my effects loop).
Do you have a A/B switcher thing-a-ma-jig? That'll help.

I'll firstly try this:
CS9 -> BF2 -> TS10 -> Big Muff

Mr-M

Good advice on the TU2 CDee - it can be a real tonesucker (depending on the rig), but if there's no other choice leave it at the beginning or the end of the chain.

I'd have to differ on the effects order CDee (though what you suggested could sound interesting)...

The general rule is: {Low Gain} -> {Higher Gain} -> {Modulation} -> {Delay} - > {Reverb}.
Of course experimenting with different EFX orders can get you to some interesting sounds, but for conventional uses stick with this general rule of thumb.

So nick, that would mean your current effects order is perfectly fine. I'd say put the Crunch Box after the TS 10 and before the Big Muff, because it is somewhere in between the two in terms of gain and you can push it with the TS10 for leads:

{Boss TU-2} -> {Ibanez TS10} -> {Crunch Box} -> {Big Muff Pi} -> {Boss BF2 Flanger} -> {Ibanez CS9 Chorus}

TomCat

Mr M wrote Good advice on the TU2 CDee - it can be a real tonesucker (depending on the rig), but if there's no other choice leave it at the beginning or the end of the chain.

I'd have to differ on the effects order CDee (though what you suggested could sound interesting)...

The general rule is: {Low Gain} -> {Higher Gain} -> {Modulation} -> {Delay} - > {Reverb}.
Of course experimenting with different EFX orders can get you to some interesting sounds, but for conventional uses stick with this general rule of thumb.

So nick, that would mean your current effects order is perfectly fine. I'd say put the Crunch Box after the TS 10 and before the Big Muff, because it is somewhere in between the two in terms of gain and you can push it with the TS10 for leads:

{Boss TU-2} -> {Ibanez TS10} -> {Crunch Box} -> {Big Muff Pi} -> {Boss BF2 Flanger} -> {Ibanez CS9 Chorus}

+1 Mr M

AlanRatcliffe

+1, but it does depend on the specific model effect. Some modulation I like in front of the overdrive and some after. For instance my two favourite phasers: the MXR Phase 90 works best in front of an overdrive, but I like a EHX Small Stone Phaser after.

Mr-M

Agree 100% on the Phasers Alan. I use my MXR Phase 90 in front of my overdrive and fuzz pedals. Definitely sounds the best that way. Hey, EVH ran his in front of his Marshall's distortion, so it's a tried and tested way of doing it. I'm not a huge EVH fan, but it does sound better that way.

The Boss phaser on the other hand sounds better after gain pedals. Like Alan said, it does depend on the specific model of the effect. General rules will usually help most guys rigs, but experimenting with the order a bit can lead to cool results as well.

Tauriq

Hey Nick did your pedal arrive yet?

nick

Tauriq wrote Hey Nick did your pedal arrive yet?

No, called around this morning and nothing yet ☹

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