nick
I have a Tubescreamer, the TS10 model though and I have a cheapy Behringer Ultra Metal.
So far:
1) TS10, too little too trebley
2) Boss DS-1, also too trebley, could take paint off the walls (single coil strat)
3) Behringer UM100, fine for Metallica or early Green Day, terrible for Pearl Jam etc.
4) Boss MT-2, too digital and not warm enough
Other suggestions, want to try out a Rat, went to MusicMate/Bothners but neither had.
Looking for the 90s alternative sound, Pearl Jam, early Smashing Pumpkins, Foo Fighters etc.
Manfred-Klose
take the day off and go spend it at marshall music, they have loads of pedals to try out.
I use the Boss SD-1, really warm sounding for what i am looking for,not much overdrive but sounds very smooth.
inflames
Try the Maxon OD 9 or 808!
Both very nice pedals.
TomCat
Also have an SD-1. Nice on HB but might be a bit thin on SC.
If you have the cash get a MI Audio Crunch box.
One of our guitarists at church uses one with his Strat into a Hot Rod Deluxe......tone heaven. Really three dimensional. Cost about R2K but worth every cent.
Mr-M
Here's a couple of suggestions based on what the artists use for their sound/ or what works in reproducing their sound:
Smashing Pumpkins = Electro Harmonix Big Muff Pi or a Way Huge Swollen Pickle. Pretty much any era of SPs music.
Pearl Jam = Ibanez TS-9 into Marshall/ Vox Style amp with some breakup/ overdrive happening. A constant staple of Mike's rig. If you don't have a good amp for this, get an MI Audio Crunch Box or an MXR Distortion III to get this sound.
Foo Fighters = Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier or Road King. A pedal to get this sound would be the MI Audio Tube Zone or the MXR Distortion III (at higher gain settings).
slyd
Having had a choice in this matter while playing pro thu the late 80's; I had the IBZ Tube Screamer (stolen),Boss OD1 and Superdrive OD2, but the Tokai Overdrive TOD1 was pedal of note! 8) just 4 info ! I use a G2 Zoom now fyi. :-[
slyd
slyd wrote
Having had a choice in this matter while playing pro thu the late 80's; I had the IBZ Tube Screamer (stolen),Boss OD1 and Superdrive OD2, but the Tokai Overdrive TOD1 was pedal of note! 8) just 4 info ! I use a G2 Zoom now fyi. :-[
With the OD i went directly into a BossCS2 comp/sustain for lead . . .
nick
Mr M wrote
Here's a couple of suggestions based on what the artists use for their sound/ or what works in reproducing their sound:
Smashing Pumpkins = Electro Harmonix Big Muff Pi or a Way Huge Swollen Pickle. Pretty much any era of SPs music.
Pearl Jam = Ibanez TS-9 into Marshall/ Vox Style amp with some breakup/ overdrive happening. A constant staple of Mike's rig. If you don't have a good amp for this, get an MI Audio Crunch Box or an MXR Distortion III to get this sound.
Foo Fighters = Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier or Road King. A pedal to get this sound would be the MI Audio Tube Zone or the MXR Distortion III (at higher gain settings).
Thanks for the info 8)
Mr-M
No problem. What I was basically trying to say here is that no one pedal will cover all the tones of the bands you mentioned accurately.
Possibly the only pedal that will cover most of the sonic territory you want to cover would be the MI Audio Tube Zone, which with some tweaking could do most of what you want it to quite well. The only difficulty might be the Pumpkins tone, which is an aggressive & compressed fuzz tone. If you turn the character knob up it makes the sound fuzzier and woollier, which can just about approximate Billy Corgan & James Iha's tone.
Of course the best way would be to get a pedal for each tone.
AlanRatcliffe
+1. Three pedals will usually cover 99% of what you want. An overdrive, A distortion and a Fuzz will do it - exact models to your own taste. The nice thing about having three pedals is you can swap from one to the other without needing to change settings and you can also keep drive settings lower for crunchy stuff and simply kick in two pedals at once, cascading them for more drive when needed.
nick
I want one.. Will call around tommorow and see who has in stock ?
nick
Apparently no local representation for Electro Harmonix in South Africa, online only as recommended by Marshall Music. Who are seriously the most helpful bunch of guys over the phone!
Edit: Bothners in Claremont claim they can get in a day or two.. asked them to order ?
AlanRatcliffe
Yup - Bothners are the EH distributors locally AFAIK. You getting the Russian or the US model?
nick
Alan Ratcliffe wrote
Yup - Bothners are the EH distributors locally AFAIK. You getting the Russian or the US model?
US model ? The Little Big Muff is the same thing just with surface mount components?
Mr-M
Bothners used to be the agents. Found out when I was trying to get an EH Micro Pog earlier this year. If they don't have stock left, they can't get more.
The Little Big Muff is apparently the same thing as the US BM Pi, but in a smaller enclosure with True Bypass. A great option if you can get one.
IMO, the very best Big Muff style pedal is the Way Huge Swollen Pickle MKII (mentioned in earlier post). Such a huge, killer-sounding fuzz pedal with so much control over your tone, but pricey (around R2700). Had the opportunity to play on one a few times and if I didn't already have 3 fuzz pedals it would be mine! It'll still probably follow me home one of these days. ?
AlanRatcliffe
nick wrote
The Little Big Muff is the same thing just with surface mount components?
That's right. ? Same circuit, just smaller. As Mike mentioned, it's true bypass which is a great upgrade over the original. Also has a normal DC input, centre negative, so can be powered by any common 9V supply (just as well as you have to take the bottom off to get to the battery).
@Mr M - also speak to Matta about fuzz boxes - he had his proto Fuzzilla (sp?) at Graemestock and it looked almost as variable as the Swollen pickle. I have no idea of the price, but he hasn't cut any corners with it.
nick
http://www.ehx.com/products/big-muff-pi
Claims:
(*) True bypass
(*) Singing sustain with attitude
(*) Crushing distortion
(*) Adjustable tone
(*) 9-volt battery included
(*) Optional 9DC-100 power supply available
I had a listen to Matta's fuzz and it went from mild to 8bit complete overfuzz. He said in kit for it might be around R900-1k if I remember correctly.
shadow1
i think overdrive/distortion/fuzz is such a personal thing. I have been in a band where i love my tone and the other guitarist hates it? SO it is best to play on the pedals first but as we all know in SA often the product we want we cant test first. Personally had MANY pedals and amps, i took a chance and ordered the maxon od808 and its awsome! however wont be heavy enough for what you looking for, i ended up getting another tubescreamer called the route 66 (comp and TS in one) while they claim its the same as the maxon (same chip supposedly) the colour in the tine is LANK different. i sometimes layer them over eachother as ALAN R said. Work s DAMN well but with my strat that gets about as "heavy" as jimmy hendrix / bit more gritty than SRV.
I see your setup is marshall and strat so naturally that will be pretty "harsh" or trebely
Heard the marshall is pretty good, theres 2,gov'nor and jackhammer - cant remember which one... ?
good luck mate, hope you get what you want, personally i think you going to need 2 differrent pedals for that spectrum of tone ?
nick
Bothners just called.. got stock of Big Muff Pi... going to look ?
Sidecar
I bought a second hand KORG DST-1 pedal this weekend. If you spot one, get it! Its more of an overdrive in my opinion, but it sounds really great ? Nice string separation, smooth and creamy with the tone down and bright and zingy with with the tone up...
