Some Tabs

chris77

Hi there. I've compiled some of my favourite tabs that I posted on Box.net for a friend. I'm attaching the link, so if you want feel free to download. There's quite a spread there, with a lot of variety, but all the songs are easy and fun to play.

It's in a single word file format and the file is a little over 1mb.

FenderBender

Great Tabs! Thanks ?

aja

Awesome!

Squonk

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quite an interesting collection

I see there's Albert Hammond's "The Peacemaker", really brought back some memories, I haven't thought about that song for years ?

AlanRatcliffe

Umm... guys? You are aware that tabs of copyrighted material are a no-no? Record companies view them as piracy.

Link removed... Sorry

guitarboy2828

Alan Ratcliffe wrote Umm... guys? You are aware that tabs of copyrighted material are a no-no? Record companies view them as piracy.

Link removed... Sorry

Wise move Alan.. But the link still does work. I think there should be a rule on the site, if there isn't already that tabs aren't allowed..

chris77

Whooops, my bad. Thanks Allan, I certainly dont want to get into trouble. If it wasnt for tabs though I certainly would not have persevered when I just started out. The thrill of playing something you like and would not otherwise have been able to was a major motivator for me. But rules are rules and must be followed, and I certainly do not want to deliberately infringe on any muso's intelectual property. (I am passionate about buying cd's and not pirating them and owned nearly 500 last time I counted. ) When it comes to tabs though, hobbyists like me sometimes forget that what we so easily copy and trade with friends is another blokes livelihood. So respect to you guys who put the original stuff we all love so much out there.

AlanRatcliffe

guitarboy2828 wrote Wise move Alan.. But the link still does work. I think there should be a rule on the site, if there isn't already that tabs aren't allowed..

After all that, I forgot to remove the link :-[ No sleep, no brain...

It is already covered by rule 1c - "unauthorized copyrighted material". But maybe I had better expand it and cite a few examples.

@Chris - Honest mistake. Of course, the irony is that in most cases the copyright for the music/lyrics is owned by a music publishing company, not the artist who created it. You usually sign away your rights to it when you sign a standard recording contract. That's how Michael Jackson ended up owning the rights to the Beatles catalogue - the company sold them and MJ outbid McCartney at the auction.

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Wow, it seems I regularly flout 1 a)... but that's generally just to harass Neps or Brent, so that's OK, isn't it?

Neps

Stratisfear wrote Wow, it seems I regularly flout 1 a)... but that's generally just to harass Neps or Brent, so that's OK, isn't it?

LOL.. But then again, a day would just not be the same without it..haha

Heath

flouting 1a to give neps and brent a hard time is completely legal and is actually in the GFSA rules . i believe you will be banned for not flouting 1a against neps and brent .

*goes and hides in the corner* ?

AlanRatcliffe

Neps is fine - he's not people, he's a drummer. ? I'll have to ban you for Brent though... ?

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Alan Ratcliffe wrote Neps is fine - he's not people, he's a drummer. ? I'll have to ban you for Brent though... ?

Hahahaha

Neps

Alan Ratcliffe wrote Neps is fine - he's not people, he's a drummer. ? I'll have to ban you for Brent though... ?

I would like to report this post to the moderator.. hahahahahahaha

Squonk

Oops, Sorry Alan

@ Brent brilliant smiley

Spyke

Now... I disagree here.

What makes tabs copyrighted material? Are the majority of them (i didn't follow the link so I don't know about this context) not merely an individuals representation of the said work? The creator of the tabs sat down and figured it out and then wrote it down, he hasn't copied the tabs from the artists sheet / tab music, and it is therefore flawed.

I fear that this rabbit hole is much deeper than one thinks, especially seeing as some pub artists surely don't have the rights or permission to perform certain songs - but they make money off of it. Anyone here going to be making money off of the posted tabs?

If my one challenge piece happens to sound like another song, am I in breech of a copyright by posting it here?

I am reminded of the great Mxtabs fiasco, one that was bypassed by hosting the site outside of the United States.

discuss...

Heath

well it goes back down to sounding like there music , remember coldplay vs JS just for sounding similar , what i have a problem is can i copyright a sound , say the sound a engine makes and sue every person who uses that sound or every owner of a car cos there car makes sound that i have copyrighted . i know this sounds silly but this is actually what is happening .

but what the record companys are getting pissed about is , they not making money off the tabs , they are freely available and they want to sell the book which they are not .

it was a sad day when started this nonsense , as many of us would not be playing guitar today if it wasn't for tabs , if they had tabs as freely available in 60's as they do today there would be millions more guitarists now .

DonovanB

Tailon. wrote it was a sad day when started this nonsense , as many of us would not be playing guitar today if it wasn't for tabs , if they had tabs as freely available in 60's as they do today there would be millions more guitarists now .

Yip, clearly they are not thinking for the future by trying to deny people from learning and as such denying a potential superstar.

It is a funny topic and while we can disagreee, it is best to protect this forum form any legal action by not putting it up here.

Neps

Spyke wrote
I fear that this rabbit hole is much deeper than one thinks, especially seeing as some pub artists surely don't have the rights or permission to perform certain songs - but they make money off of it. Anyone here going to be making money off of the posted tabs?

Well, technically if you perform Cover songs you have to register with SAMRO (I think it's SAMRO) and pay a yearly fee that enables you to perform the music in public. Clubs and Pubs who also play music from CD's or the DSTV music channel are also supposed to pay a fee for the usage of that music. It's not as well enforced as it's supposed to. So all muso's who perform covers in their set are technically in breach of copyright laws. (I may be wrong, but this was after a long chat I had with a lawyer regarding copyrights)

IMHO the Tab issue world wide is a joke. Unless you are making money from publishing it you're not really breaking the law. But then again the above argument about performance rights also is a sticky issue. Websites also receive revenue from advertising and that can be seen as earning an income due to copyright infringement.

My 5 cents.. (which I now duly will have to pay to FPK's publishing company for having a line from one of their songs in my signature)

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Well, regardless of the means of transcription (tabs or notation), I guess what they're saying is that if someone owns the rights to publishing the music (as written down), jotting down tabs and then passing them around (despite being tabs, they DO have the potential to be 100% correct, hahahaha) is the same as filming a movie in a theatre with a handicam and then passing that around. I can understand where they're coming from, although I think the digital age might fast bring about a rewriting of copyright laws.

As for more guitarists - do we need more of them? ?

And, technically, pubs SHOULD be paying royalties for music played over the PA (with cover versions played live I think it's up to the band to sort out?), which is already one area where SA gets away with murder compared with places like the UK and USA.

EDIT: Incidentally, we can also count ourselves lucky that, given the (by international standards) relatively low numbers of CD sales in South Africa, record companies are not fussed about you including a cover version on an album. In fact, all they demand is that credit is given to the songwriters! It's only when airplay over the media happens that they want to get interested. If you ask me, that's a pretty damn cushy situation.