Pron.... GFSA style.

DonovanB · 2009-06-18T14:09:26+00:00

I know it's irrational, but I reckon we should have a thread where you can post links to guitars you want real bad, and guitars you think are just downright...

Pron.... GFSA style.

Renesongs

Hmmm - lets hope your wife does'nt sit bolt upright in bed and say "Postminimalism is bulls&%t". This one is rather an attractive beast but I have a weakness for undressed fretless necks

deefstes

Jack Flash Jr wrote: Just a pity it's short scale...

...and knotty pine.

Jack-Flash-Jr

deefstes wrote:
Jack Flash Jr wrote: Just a pity it's short scale...
...and knotty pine.

Indeed.

Malkav

domhatch

Chad Adam Browne wrote:

yum. double yum with sprinkles on top. what is it? can't find it on the prs site, it's beeeeeeeeyootifuel.

Malkav

domhatch wrote: what is it? can't find it on the prs site, it's beeeeeeeeyootifuel.

I can only assume it's a Private Stock model ? Tis an absolute stunner though ?

blues_addict

Chad Adam Browne wrote:

Nice wood finish but otherwise... I think that's quite nasty... ???

deefstes

Just wondering, why is it that we never see these weird and wonderful guitars in proper bands? You'll find Youtube videos of some bass virtuoso totally walloping some ridiculous 9 string bass or something but you never see it in popular bands.

I can think of that ludicrous guitar that Prince used to play but really, there aren't many examples.

Malkav

deefstes wrote: Just wondering, why is it that we never see these weird and wonderful guitars in proper bands? You'll find Youtube videos of some bass virtuoso totally walloping some ridiculous 9 string bass or something but you never see it in popular bands.

I know of lots of proper bands I like that experiment and use these types of guitars, you wouldn't see them in bands like Coldplay because lets be honest it's not like their guitarist really has the kinds of aspirations that would lead you to wanting instruments that assist you in performing better. I do realise he may be better than I'm aware of and that Coldplay may just be for money etc, I'm just using him as an example.

Guitarists generally seem to be quite a complacent bunch and generally don't want to accept that guitar design has evolved since the strat and LP hit the scene, they don't accept change very well at all really and popular music is never really about pushing the boundaries or trying to do anything too particularly unique which is why you generally find these kinds of guitars in the hands of the more left of field players.

Define popular though, Animals As Leaders are extremely popular in the technical metal scene at the moment and their guitarist (Tosin Abasi) owns 2 Strandbergs, 1 Rick Toone (with another on the way), a Mayones and 2 custom made Ibanez RGs and has a Vik on the way that are very different to what's available on the production market. He is a player that is trying to push the boundaries of his own imagination and technique though and therefore needs instruments that can assist him in doing so, I'm sure if he were just churning out pop-punk like Tom Delonge of Blink 182 he wouldn't need these kinds of instruments and his fanbase wouldn't care if he had them.

Also, 9 string bass, pfft ? how about 11 ?

Okay I lie, 9 isn't too bad ?

PACMAN! ?

All of these basses belong to Jean Baudin, he's amazing ?

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deefstes

Chad Adam Browne wrote:
deefstes wrote: Just wondering, why is it that we never see these weird and wonderful guitars in proper bands? You'll find Youtube videos of some bass virtuoso totally walloping some ridiculous 9 string bass or something but you never see it in popular bands.
I know of lots of proper bands I like that experiment and use these types of guitars, you wouldn't see them in bands like Coldplay because lets be honest it's not like their guitarist really has the kinds of aspirations that would lead you to wanting instruments that assist you in performing better. I do realise he may be better than I'm aware of and that Coldplay may just be for money etc, I'm just using him as an example.

Guitarists generally seem to be quite a complacent bunch and generally don't want to accept that guitar design has evolved since the strat and LP hit the scene, they don't accept change very well at all really and popular music is never really about pushing the boundaries or trying to do anything too particularly unique which is why you generally find these kinds of guitars in the hands of the more left of field players.

Define popular though, Animals As Leaders are extremely popular in the technical metal scene at the moment and their guitarist (Tosin Abasi) owns 2 Strandbergs, 1 Rick Toone (with another on the way), a Mayones and 2 custom made Ibanez RGs and has a Vik on the way that are very different to what's available on the production market. He is a player that is trying to push the boundaries of his own imagination and technique though and therefore needs instruments that can assist him in doing so, I'm sure if he were just churning out pop-punk like Tom Delonge of Blink 182 he wouldn't need these kinds of instruments and his fanbase wouldn't care if he had them.

You make some good points. Allow me to point out though that I don't know a single one of the bands that you just mentioned (except for Coldplay). Now it could mean that I am particularly ill informed or it could be that they are just not quite as popular. I'm suspecting the latter. I'm not saying they're not good, I'm sure they're great, but the fact that I have never heard of them might suggest that they don't get as much exposure as you might be suggesting and that they are rather considered a niche genre or they are just not popular.

Chad Adam Browne wrote: Also, 9 string bass, pfft ? how about 11 ?

Uhm, yes, so in answer to the question of when does a guitar have too many strings; I guess it's when the player can't even count them properly anymore. Those are 12 strings. ? ?

Malkav

deefstes wrote: You make some good points. Allow me to point out though that I don't know a single one of the bands that you just mentioned (except for Coldplay). Now it could mean that I am particularly ill informed or it could be that they are just not quite as popular. I'm suspecting the latter. I'm not saying they're not good, I'm sure they're great, but the fact that I have never heard of them might suggest that they don't get as much exposure as you might be suggesting and that they are rather considered a niche genre or they are just not popular.

Animals As Leaders are incredibly popular, you're just living under a rock ? Just cause it's not on MTV doesn't mean there aren't lots of people all over the world enjoying it ? It's heavy music so it's not likely to get radio play or anything like that, but they are one of the more known bands in the metal scene. South Africa is a strange place though and things tend to not hit here as fast as they do in other countries ? Then again I'm sure there are tons of popular acts in your world I would never had heard of before ?

Examples if you're interested ?

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deefstes wrote: Uhm, yes, so in answer to the question of when does a guitar have too many strings; I guess it's when the player can't even count them properly anymore. Those are 12 strings. ? ?

Hahaha my bad ? The Joust one is the bass he normally sticks to so I figured he hadn't gone further than 11, I didn't even bother counting them cause without a headstock trying to count that many strings becomes a case of

Malkav

I just love these things too much, one of the few ergonomic brands that actually manage to be attractive. If I do build a guitar this year I'm going to be stealing so many aspects of design from Strandberg...

For the traditionalists ?

I'm also really interested in his new ergonomic neck concept, the Endurneck - some of the above models have it, I believe the black one with the Seymour Duncan P-Rails was the prototype model for this neck type.

Bob-Dubery

Tippin Crescendo. The tonewood is pink ebony.

Lovely detail work

I don't know about that heel either. I've checked the Tippin web site. Several of the guitars shown have a profiled heel, which I assume is some ergnomic feature. I'm guessing that for this guitar he's just used some contrasting wood for that feature.

deefstes

Just wow! That is a thing of beauty.

singemonkey

The complete guitar didn't knock me out. But I really like the detailing. Very 1920s or something.

Chad, I was damn impressed with Tosin Abasi on one of those vids you posted - playing with a jazz singer and a looper. These many-string guitars seem to be great options for a two or three piece band with no bass player.

blues_addict

Chad Adam Browne wrote: I just love these things too much, one of the few ergonomic brands that actually manage to be attractive. If I do build a guitar this year I'm going to be stealing so many aspects of design from Strandberg...

For the traditionalists ?

I'm also really interested in his new ergonomic neck concept, the Endurneck - some of the above models have it, I believe the black one with the Seymour Duncan P-Rails was the prototype model for this neck type.

If the guy from SAW played guitar, it would be one of these...

Malkav

singemonkey wrote: Chad, I was damn impressed with Tosin Abasi on one of those vids you posted - playing with a jazz singer and a looper. These many-string guitars seem to be great options for a two or three piece band with no bass player.

I believe this may be the video you were referring to ?

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8 Strings are great for almost any scenario really, you don't have to use all the range, it's just nice that it's there ?

Anyway more .Strandberg* porn ?

Some Blackmachines as well cause I've been researching and perving over them lately...

I know these aren't done being built yet but they're quite pretty regardless. Some in progress Decibels ? Check the Ebony fretboard on the first one ?

Dat purple burst!

Jack-Flash-Jr

Hmmm..... I think you've finally hit on a >6 string that I actually like the look of ?
This is f.i.n.e. fine.

deefstes

Jack Flash Jr wrote: Hmmm..... I think you've finally hit on a >6 string that I actually like the look of ?
This is f.i.n.e. fine.

Malkav

deefstes wrote:
Jack Flash Jr wrote: Hmmm..... I think you've finally hit on a >6 string that I actually like the look of ?
This is f.i.n.e. fine.
+1

Just so you're both aware, cause it may be the deal breaker, all blackmachines have this headstock shape, of course string count varies but it's always the metal take on Parker and always reversed ?

The one you two are referencing is actually a bog standard B7, some very interesting specs as standard though, 34mm thick Swamp Ash body with a 2mm Ebony top and a 5 piece Honduran Rosewood neck with Ebony Fillets and Ebony fretboard. They are thin...

They are all handmade by one guy in England and often fetch astronomical prices, recently an F8 which is his fanned fret 8 string model was sold for $8k.

More! ?