Non payment for performance

Stoffeltoo

I am frustrated and feel duped after a gig.
I am looking for a place to name and shame the establishment to prevent other bands and musos ending up in the same situation.

Seems like some club owners believe they can treat musicians and bands like fodder.

Any guidance on name an shame?

V8

Stoffeltoo wrote: Seems like some club owners believe they can treat musicians and bands like fodder.

That sucks Stoffeltoo!

There was a lot of chatter a long time ago about a local musicians union - sparked by musicians sharing similar experiences.

Personally, I'm interested to hear the gory details - feel free to share your side of the story.

slowpoet

I know there used to be a facebook group specifically for this, but for the life of me I can't remember its name.

babbalute

Hi Stoffel,

Happens to the best, there is a facebook page you can list your experience. read the conditions regarding reporting otherwise it might get you into trouble.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/sablacklist/

Stoffeltoo

Thanks for the advice guys. I am currently taking legal opinion on this issue and will reserve comment till i have clarity on the way forward. I will then share all the crummy details.

Hasie

It sucks man. >:( Being screwed over by one of these:

Keira-WitherKay

keep your cool, don't overstep your mark yet ........ i say YET ....

small claims court handles cases like this....you need to prove tho you had an agreement so any email or even text/whatsap ...and you need to prove you never broke your side of the agreement in any way .....

if you can provide proof you delivered the service and it was you contracted to do this ... just take it to small claims court ...or see a lawyer often just a legal letter informing the venue you will proceed with legal action is sufficient... maybe even a lawyer who is also a muso ....will even offer to write such a letter at a reduced rate or pro bono ..as i agree venues/corporates often view the muso as the "little guy" who can't afford legal services.

unless the venue has gone into bankrupcy , if you performed you get paid...

thats why any booking should be via email.... as one can dispute a handshake deal ...but if it's in an email.....say no more

Arno-West

Welcome to the land of the gigging musician Stoffeltoo. This sort of thing happens to everybody somewhere along the line.

Right now you are angry and wanna gouge the guy's eyes out with a teaspoon, but don't worry about it too much. 2 Years from now when his venue has closed down and he is drowning in debt, you'll still be playing guitar.

Concider it schoolfees paid.

Stoffeltoo

Arno West wrote: Welcome to the land of the gigging musician Stoffeltoo. This sort of thing happens to everybody somewhere along the line.

Right now you are angry and wanna gouge the guy's eyes out with a teaspoon, but don't worry about it too much. 2 Years from now when his venue has closed down and he is drowning in debt, you'll still be playing guitar.

Concider it schoolfees paid.

Ahweh! Still steaming though for being such a dunce for being duped

babbalute

Long time ago we used to call the motorbike guy,s to sort this out, we always invited them to our gigs. Never had any difficulty with payments. Sad way but we cant be beggars.