ryanguit wrote:
Of course all the guys buying (and selling) Gibsons are going to try convince us that Tokai LP and SG models are just counterfeit Gibsons, but the problem is: The don't say "Gibson" or "Made in U.S.A." anywhere and they also clearly pride themselves on branding their models with THEIR OWN brandname. That all said, If Gibson wins the debate on Tokai being a counterfeit, what are they then claiming? That all the PRS, ESP, Ibanez, etc guitars that have a single cutaway made of mahogany are also counterfeits? Biggest irony is that Tokai does not copy any ANY current model Gibsons, only the construction method of the old redundant way Gibson used to build instruments. You know, when they were worth buying.
If GIbson wants us to buy Gibsons. They must build them properly.
Business 101: Cut out competition, raise prices, cut corners and costs to increase profit.
Unfortunately they got the order wrong. You can't cut corners before cutting out the competition.
What's with the sweeping statement about "all the guys buying (and selling) Gibsons"? In fact, if you go back through this thread it appears that the vast majority of people dislike Gibson's modus operandi re litigation, QC and resting on laurels, and that includes everyone who owns Gibsons, at least according to their signatures (or I know it independently). Also, most people have shown a lot of respect for Tokai.
In fact the only people who have come out swinging against Tokai have been pretty roundly shouted down by everyone else (and don't identify themselves as Gibson owners). So pound on Gibson all you want, but the Gibson players on here have played with a straight bat.
